Jack Dempsey & Joe Louis Newsreel and Training Footage

Damm Joe Louis ****ed up 6'3 230lb Cecil Harris in that video.

Joe Louis would have destroyed Jack Dempsey

 

Wow, wow, yes, I heard the explosion as it landed. wow. Wow. Wow wow.

What a shot.

 

I think you're probably right. Dempsey treated a fight like it was in the streets. He said, in the streets it's about who knocks who out first because it's either knock out or get knocked out.

Now, he's not saying, go around and pick fights in the street, he's saying, his style was to try and knock his opponent out at all costs.

With that said, he would do exactly what Louis wanted him to do because Louis would want to pick him off with KO punches as he comes in.

 

The two greatest G's to rule the division.

God damn.

 

Louis was amazing, but don't underrate Dempsey.

 

Dempsey was a vicious beast in his day and as good as he was he could have been better if he had stayed active....Louis was truly the greatest

 

A couple of points...Training sessions are just that, training sessions...Like being privy to opera singers rehearse. Meaningless...Louis who I love was a great boxer who looked great sparring, whilst Dempsey was a slam bang puncher who to be effective had to go all out, and that's a NO NO in sparring sessions...I have seen so many sparring sessions at Stillman's gym where the best main event fighters were upstaged by fighters not on their level in a real match...That being said I honestly believe that at their bests,
Jack Dempsey [foolishly sold short on ESB] and my favorite heavyweight Joe Louis, were the two greatest heavyweights ever man to man...Dempsey in his savage prime was an animal in the ring, lithe as a panther, a great two handed hitter and the top rough and tumble heavyweight of all...Joe Louis at his zenith [Max Baer vintage], was the greatest
combination puncher of all-time, with uncanny leverage in his punches...And they didn't have to lug around extra weight, thus losing hand and foot speed...

 

25 cents could buy a full course dinner? Holy ****...

Dempsey was a wild man. What a hobo. Louis was so much more scientific.

Did not know that hobo tramp tried to make a comeback at 36 years old. Did not go through with it, quite hoboish of him.

 

You really fell for that sound effect cracking sound?

 

Detractors of Jack Dempsey wrongly claim that Dempsey was just a crude wildman...So, so wrong...As Gene Tunney and others attest to, Dempsey was very difficult to hit on the button, because of his rolling motion and his chin was tucked in his shoulder...
Yes he loved to brawl as witnessed by his rushing Luis Firpo at the start of the bout in which Dempsey, missed an opening punch, stumbled and was nailed by Firpo's right hand.
But in general he was more on guard, coming in a crouch, rolling his head left to right...
Jack also showed in the Shelby fight with a master defensive boxer Tommy Gibbons ,
that he could outbox his opponent when needed...Don't sell the Manassa Mauler short, as our forefathers who saw him ringside pre Tunney, knew a great fighter when they saw him...

 

Dempsey is horrendously underrated nowadays, Burt. I actually pick him over Louis head to head.

 

Yet picking Foreman over Tyson is insane. Good to know.

 

My favourite Dempsey footage (outside of the sparring footage against Big Bill Tate) from about 00:21 to about the minute mark - compare that endlessly moving, dancing forward kid with his long reaching shots endless aggression moving on his feet like a welterweight circling circling never on the same spot for a second and that lead right for his sparring partner and that blazing flurry to the body - the guy he was sparring looked a pretty quick light heavy type but couldn't hope to match Dempsey's speed of either hand or foot - that's the Dempsey I imagine resembling a 30 pound larger Harry Greb - and endlessly moving bob weaving circling dervish who could mix a blend of long shots short shots and blurring handspeed although to top it Dempsey had that savage power and nasty killer streak - meaning he could mix it with the best of them.