Pac: "We Offered Floyd 50-50 Plus PPV"

Boxing Fanatic · May 15, 2012

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unloco · May 15, 2012

i honestly feel the fight gets made this year ,

Arcane · May 15, 2012

The problem is Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 anymore (unless he can get 1.3 million + buys for his fight with Bradley) Mayweather is a super cashcow, Pac is just a regular cow.

BewareofDawg · May 15, 2012

Pac doesn't deserve 50/50. It's extremely simple math. Just like Floyd didn't deserve 50/50 when he fought Oscar. Neither did Hopkins or Pac when they fought Oscar. This is so stupid that this is getting in the way. Floyd does more revenue, floyd attracts more viewers. End of story.

PBFred · May 15, 2012

They didn't offer ****. That is unless you think that Manny was incapable of fighting May 5 and the stadium needed to be built to hold the fight.

There was no real offer from either side because Arum wouldn't even listen.

Boxing Fanatic · May 15, 2012

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4jGK4sILXY&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/ame]

2:53 mark, how can floyd turn that down?

Pimp C · May 15, 2012

Pac won't get 50/50 he's not the bigger draw let alone equal. And after his fight with Bradley he'll have even less leverage.

Pimp C · May 15, 2012

BewareofDawg said: ↑

Pac doesn't deserve 50/50. It's extremely simple math. Just like Floyd didn't deserve 50/50 when he fought Oscar. Neither did Hopkins or Pac when they fought Oscar. This is so stupid that this is getting in the way. Floyd does more revenue, floyd attracts more viewers. End of story.
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:deal

mrjotatp4p · May 15, 2012

I thought they offered 45, 45 and 10 to the winner. I thought they offered 60 40 to the winner. Now its 50/50. Which one is it?

Leon · May 15, 2012

so now they're willing to give up all the PPV rev? Sounds too goo to be true

Concrete · May 15, 2012

Do they mean 50mil each guaranteed and Mayweather gets the PPV rev?

Like I was saying before if they both combine for 100mil guaranteed money then the left over money to split won't be much.

doylexxx · May 15, 2012

this would be more money than either man has ever made for a figth

tarugojones · May 15, 2012

BewareofDawg said: ↑

Pac doesn't deserve 50/50. It's extremely simple math. Just like Floyd didn't deserve 50/50 when he fought Oscar. Neither did Hopkins or Pac when they fought Oscar. This is so stupid that this is getting in the way. Floyd does more revenue, floyd attracts more viewers. End of story.
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Wrong comparison. Floyd was doing less than 500,000 ppv before he fought Oscar.

Pacquiao is averaging more than a million buys / fight for the last 6 fights.

catnthehat · May 15, 2012

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Totaling up all of their numbers for all PPV does not show the truth.

The numbers are as follows: Mayweather De La Hoya 2,400,000 Mayweather-Hatton920,000 Mayweather Marquez 1,005,000 Mayweather Mosley 1,500,000 Mayweather Ortiz 1,200,000 Mayweather Cotto 1,500,000 for a total of 8,525,000 PPV buys...The average is 1,705,000;

With Pacquiao you have: Pacquiao De La Hoya 1,250,000 Pacquiao Hatton 850,000 Pacquiao Cotto 1,250,000 Pacquiao Clottey 700,000 Pacquiao Margarito 1,150,000 Pacquiao Mosley 1,200,000, Pacquiao Marquez 3 1,450,000 for a total of 7,850,000 PPV buys. The average is about 1,113,000. Now let's look at the common opponents. the numbers for all common opponents are listed above and the common opponents amongst them are De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto, and Mosley. Mayweather has 7,325,000 PPV buys among common opponents and averages 1,465,000. Pacquiao has 6,100,000 buys among common opponents nad averages 1,220,000. You have one guy averaging 1,705,000 and another guy averaging 1,113,000, whic is a difference of 592,000 PPV buys or more than half of Pacquiao's average. If you go off the common opponents, Floyd averages 245,000 more buys which is approx. 17% higher than Pacquiao.

If you look at revenue then Floyd also holds a very big edge with this as well. I don't have the Pacquiao revenue numbers, but the top 4 highest net revenue fights all include Floyd. You have De La Hoya Mayweather at approx $135,000,000, Cotto Mayweather at $94,000,000, Ortiz Mayweather at $78,400,000, and Mosley Mayweather at $78,000,000. The only numbers I have for Pacquiao's revenue is $70,100,000 for the Pacquiao De La Hoya fight. Some fans say, "well it's the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight that jacks up Floyd's numbers." Well that is fine but that is not relevant. The numbers are what they are and there is no way to change them.

Some will say "well Floyd fights once per year and that's why he does those high numbers." To those people, I'll point out that since the De La Hoya fight, Floyd fought Oscar and Hatton in a 7 month period, Marquez and Mosley in a 8 month period, and Ortiz and Cotto within an 8 month period. Mayweather and De La hoya also split $79,000,000 with 2,400,000 PPV buys, with Oscar making $52,800,000 and Floyd taking $26,200,000 to my understanding. So it's safe to assume that Mayweather and Pacquiao will split $105,000,000 at 3,000,000 PPV buys. Pacquiao has a career high payday of $25,000,000 to include profits off of PPV revenue (I am not including the Bradley fight as we just don't know here), while Floyd will end with about $50,000,000 for Cotto ($32,000,000 guarantee and $18,000,000 off PPV revenue).

So if they split $105,000,000, and Pacquiao took his career high of $40,000,000, he would end up with $15,000,000 more than anything he ever made. Floyd would end up with $15,000,000 more than anything he ever made and the deal is a fair one.

If you go with 50/50 then Floyd makes $2,500,000 more than he made for Cotto, while Manny would double his high payday of $25,000,000 and take home $52,500,000-not a good deal for both parties. How they pay that out from there is on the fighters.

If they did a 45/45-10 to the winner (which will never happen in boxing-see Pacquiao-Marquez or Williams-Lara as to why it won't) then Floyd takes a slight paycut if he loses at $47,500,000 and only makes about $57,000,000 if he wins ($7,000,000 above his highest total at $50,000,000. Manny on the other side, would be guarantee'd approx $20,000,000 more his highest payday if he lost, and $32,000,000 his highest payday if he won. I just don't see how this deal is fair...one guy stands to make a little bit more than his high payday when the PPV numbers, revenue made, and past net take home, has him dominating the Pacquiao. Note-I know my numbers are slightly off for the money and percentage splits but I hold no bias with those numbers.

Let's also not reach for anything with the PPV amount...De La Hoya Mayweather was raised $5 for the HD and $5 for the non HD. So we can assume that a Pacquiao Mayweather fight would have a PPV price tag of $70 for HD and $60 for non HD.
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This is why..the fight is projected to split $100,000,000 by the fighters..i'll just give *******s the BOTD and say $105,000,000.

Floyd's high is $50,000,000...Pac's is $25,000,000.

Concrete · May 15, 2012

And saying its not good buisness is stupid cuz there aren't any options for Pac to make anything close to 40mil. Its good buisness to turn down 40mil when you are going to make AT MOST 25mil in order to gain an extra 10mil? He basically gonna lose 15mil by fighting Bradley in order to gain 10mil.

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