Pac: "We Offered Floyd 50-50 Plus PPV"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Boxing Fanatic, May 15, 2012.

  1. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    Likes Received:
    4
    Mayweather sells more PPVS, generates more revenue... What else is there to look at when trying to decide how much a fighter gets paid? He makes more per fight, with common opponents as well. He deserves more, not much else to it. Those who are arguing Pac deserves more are basing it off their love and how popular he is in mainstream media. That **** obviously doesn't translate directly to revenue since his fights constantly generate less than Floyd. Not hard to understand why Floyd won't offer him 50/50 when he's not generating the same revenue as Floyd.
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    3,198
    Likes Received:
    0
    Exactly! :good They don't get that their love for him and how popular he is in mainstream media does not translate to $$$$.

    Pac should take the $40,000,000...he can't make that anywhere else.
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,873
    Likes Received:
    305

    OK, let me see how your mentality works. If a fighter doesn't sell over 1 million PPV's then he's not a cash cow? Personally, Pacquiao is the second biggest fighter when it comes to PPV now, so to say he's not a cash cow sounds quite ridiculous. Maybe he doesn't sell as much as floyd, but he's not that far behind, not far enough to get screwed in the negotiation table, that's for sure.
     
  4. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    3,198
    Likes Received:
    0
    He isn't being screwed on the negotiation table...$40,000,000 is $15,000,000 more his highest payday. Floyd made $50,000,000 with PPV profits with Cotto. Even at 60/40, Manny still makes $15,000,000 more his highest payday while Floyd would make $10,000,000 more his highest payday. :good
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    122,871
    Likes Received:
    34,859
    Ether
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    48,204
    Likes Received:
    9
    40 million and no ppv? that is downright greedy :-(
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    122,871
    Likes Received:
    34,859
    40 million and no PPV? Pac's career high payday $25 million. That's downright generous.:deal
     
  8. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    48,204
    Likes Received:
    9
    150 million? generous my arse :lol:
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    28,518
    Likes Received:
    81
    Hope your right but pretty sure your wrong.
     
  10. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,393
    Likes Received:
    1
    You're again spreading the same misinformation:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12837343&posted=1#post12837343
     
  11. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2009
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    34
    :huh Where's this 50 million coming from, its not like we can furnish an income statement to support such numbers
     
  12. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,020
    Likes Received:
    0
    It MIGHT be, but look at it this way...Cotto took 8mill cash, and SOME of the ppv upside if it did well....Pac didnt get ppv upscale, cuz he got 40 mil cash, which is by far more than Cotto got...not only that, but pac is not as big of a star as he used to be...Cotto vs Marg got the same amount of ppv's as pac has been getting lately...It aint as greedy as u think...Floyd is basically offering a small star more money than he deserves
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    122,871
    Likes Received:
    34,859
    Generous when considering you're not the PPV king and your previous career high payday was 25 million. Where else is Pac going to get that kind of money from? PBF can make 40 million fighting other options and has proven it Pac can't.:deal
     
  14. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    3,198
    Likes Received:
    0
    :rofl:rofl Where you get $150,000 from???:patsch

    More like $105,000,000 as the TOTAL split.

    This fight does 3,000,000 PPV buys and they would end up with $105,000,000 as the total split.

    Let me break it down for you since you don't get it.

    De La Hoya Mayweather has Oscar pulling in the highest payday of $52,800,000 while his opponent, Mayweather, pulled in $26,200,000, for a total of $79,000,000.

    Of that $$79,000,000, Oscar was guarantee'd $23,300,000 while Floyd was guarantee'd $10,000,000; there is your $33,300,000. The fight ended up with $135,800,000 in revenue. Of that $135,800,000 Oscar took $29,500,000 while Floyd took $16,200,000, thus they split $46,000,000 of the $135,800,000 in revenue.

    The projection by most experts is that this fight will do 3,000,000 PPV buys. So we can logically assume that they will end up splitting $105,000,000 ALL TOGETHER. So Manny takes $40,000,000 flat, and Floyd takes $65,000,000 and you have your $105,000,000 share. With this deal, Manny ends up making $15,000,000 more his highest payday of $25,000,000 and Floyd ends up making $15,000,000 more his highest payday of $50,000,000.

    As fair as it gets.:deal LMFAO AT THEM SPLITTING $150,000,000..:rofl
     
  15. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,393
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dude the fighters took in 57% of the $135m gross for ODLH Floyd. 57% of $210m=$120m, which is 66/33. And I generously gave you a $70 avg per buy, it'll be more for sure.

    And we didn't even include the gate, international rights, ads, closed circuit.

    But wait, there's more. If Floyd got $50m for Cotto as you claim, and say Cotto only got $10m after ppv upside, That means Floyd's starpower allowed him to negotiate an even better deal, 64% of the gross. Lets say Floyd can't do better than Pac (highly unlikely). $210m*0.64=134m.

    And I gave you low estimates at every step. More likely Floyd walks away with more than $100m.