Boxing.com's heavyweight poll - the result

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, May 16, 2012.


  1. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I have Rock at 6 and Tyson at 7. Marciano had some brutal knockouts but Tyson had some real eye openers that are just so damn devastating, and against bigger men. Rocky had some tough outings as well with Walcott and Charles and Lastarza despite showing grit and pulling out the wins. Tyson was more dominant to me when he was the champ. You don't see too many youtube highlights reels with Marciano yet we're flooded with Tyson.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    That's supposed to be a "boxing historian" right? Goes to show you how little that title means, that list isn't worth wiping my ass with. Most ESB classic posters are more knowledgeable than most so-called boxing historians.
     
  3. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Didn't Tracy Callis rate Jeffries the #1 all-time heavyweight?
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    :lol:

    I concur completely. :good

    :rofl Mendoza would like that!
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Casey knows his ****. He knows boxing and he's actually met dudes like Foreman. But I don't care much for his lists. He has Hagler at #14 at MW.
     
  6. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Maybe he knows some great knowledge, but why are his lists so stupendously silly?

    Dempsey #1 at HW?! :nut

    Hagler #14 at MW!? :blood


    Does his MW list have too many white guys who don't belong there, like his HW list?
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good one because you know people will criticize, yet you posted it with Balls because your opinion is as good as anyone.....Marciano on top :good
     
  8. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Another CBZ historian Eric Jorgensen came up with this list in a column mcvey posted in March:

     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Who knows? His HW list has already been cheered and choked a couple of times in this thread, so he obviously divides opinion and perhaps this is the goal? It's impossible for me to say.

    MW:
    01 - Ketchel
    02 - Bob Fitzsimmons
    03 - Harry Greb
    04 - Mickey Walker
    05 - Carlos Monzon
    06 - Ray Robinson
    07 - Mike Gibbons
    08 - Marcel Cerdan
    09 - Freddie Steele
    10 - Charley Burley
     
  10. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    I dont agree with it but the top 6 isnt the worst i have seen.
     
  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the guys in the list are great.....but it sounds very unfair with Hagler.....
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Good Lord.
     
  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    :lol:

    I love Seamus' takes. He grinds a very sharp axe whether out of genuine belief or shock value, but it's intelligent regardless.

    Monte Cox:
     
  15. whosthere

    whosthere Knock Knock Full Member

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    I think the lack of you tube vids has more to do with the timeline than the fighter, but I don't have an issue with your rankings based on the criterea you set.
    In all honesty, your system of ranking is as good as any other, when you go to compare fighters of different eras. How dominant was the fighter in his own era?
    That is the criterea used when you compare athletes in most sports...who was a better qb? Manning or Unitas? In thier eras, they were simpy the best ( please, no bullets from Brady fans...he's great too).
    I think maybe too much emphasis is put on "who would beat who." The fact is that things are different in each era, and it's almost impossible to compare fighters that might go 30 or 40 or more rounds to fighters that went 15 or 12 in a championship fight. A different kind of fight, a different kind of preperation, and a different kind of fighter was needed for each era.
    Maybe dominance over years in your era is the best way to look at the greatness of a fighter.