Pacquiao-Mayweather, which is the more FAIR offer?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by puga_ni_nana, Jan 26, 2012.


  1. TMalik

    TMalik Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao gets money from sponsors too, i.e. Hewlard Packard, McDonalds, State Street Produce, etc. All of that money is not fight earnings.
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    No it is not. That is you putting words in my mouth.

    To me, it's about a fair split. If Floyd will take getting raped at the negotiation table and give Pacquiao a $27,500,000 raise while he only gets $2,500,000 more than his high payday, then hey...!! make it happen.

    But I don't EXPECT Floyd to get raped in negotiations. So Manny should take the $40,000,000. As I explained in my previous post, why can Manny not take $15,000,000 more than his highest payday and Floyd will end up with about $15,000,000 more his highest payday and we got the fight? Why does Floyd have to take all the blame when he would be the one getting raped at the negotiation table.

    Yea some boxing fan you are...:patsch
     
  3. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    nope..thats with endorsements..were talking about the money they make in paydays for fights.

    So again, Floyd makes $50,000,000 and Manny makes $25,000,000. If they went 50/50, Manny would make $27,500,000 his highest payday and Floyd would get $2,500,000 more than his highest payday. Floyd brings more revenue and averages more ppv buys among common opponents. 1,705,000 average PPV for Floyd in 5 common opponents, to Manny only averaging 1,113,000 PPV buys. Manny also does not do anything close to what Floyd does for revenue. Manny did $71,000,000 with Cotto while Floyd did $94,000,000 with Cotto. Manny did $70,000,000 with Oscar while Floyd did $137,800,000 with Oscar. Manny did $45,000,000 with Ricky while Floyd edged him there at $47,000,000. Floyd did $53,000,000 with Marquez while Manny did $74,000,000. Manny did $68,000,000 with Shane while Floyd did $78,000,000.

    And your still not getting that Manny more than doubles his highest payday of $25,000,000, and would get $52,000,000. Meantime Floyd only gets $2,500,000 more than his highest payday with Miguel Cotto.

    Manny should take the $40,00,000. The fighters take 1/3 of the revenue which would come out to approx. $195,000,000. Floyd would get $65,000,000 of that $195,000,000.

    In this deal, both fighters make $15,000,000 more their highest payday.:deal:bbb
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    pac would be earning much more than that if added all his endorsements. $30M a fight for pac is not impossible. he got around $30M in the marquez fight alone.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this is BS. assuming that all your figures are correct, which i think is wrong, why would pac accept a deal that does not include hima ny share of the PPV? he made $30M+ against marquez alone, why would he accept a $40M flat fee from floyd when this figth would break all records?
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're logic is faulty. Let's start from the basic premises that it takes two parties to make a fight.

    Next, whether or not one of the two's marketing power is stronger than the other, doesn't matter, because people are buying the package. They aren't buying to see Mayweather fight, they aren't buying to see Pacquio fight, they are buying this to see them fight each other. Period end of story. What happened prior to this fight in terms of revenues generated is irrelevant, especially since they really aren't that far apart.

    So on that basis, revenue's should be split 50-50. Now if one party is more confident they can win the fight, then I'd settle on a 55-45% where the winner gets the bigger share.

    That way at least the better fighter is actually getting rewarded rather than who may or may not have been a better draw prior to this particular fight.

    I think Floyd who seems to think his place in history is so secure really needs this fight if his legacy matters to him, because for sure the past greats such as Duran, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, managed to get fights done with each other, and I think all their legacies benefited from it.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    50/50 is always "fair", but it isn't necessarily "reasonable".

    Reviewing all of the data REPEATEDLY, no REASONABLE person can come to the conclusion Pac deserves 50%. *******s are a breed apart.
     
  8. D Berns

    D Berns Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it just so happened to be cinco de mayo?
     
  9. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    lol..bro, not sure where your getting your sources from, but Manny made $25,000,000 with Marquez at his peak.

    Your right it would break all records. It would make $26,000,000 more for the fighters to split, than that of Mayweather-De La Hoya. They would split $105,000,000. Floyd just made $50,000,000 with Cotto..He made $22,500,000 with Mosley and $17,500,000 off of $78,000,000 in revenue. He'll clear $18,000,000 off of $94,000,000 in revenue and get a payday of $50,000,000. Only Oscar has made more money for a fight when he made $52,800,000 VS Floyd.

    Your not getting that there is only $105,000,000 projected to be split between the fighters. Pac takes his $40,000,000 and Floyd takes his $65,000,000 and we have 2 fighters making $15,000,000 more than his highest payday.

    2.4 million buys, Oscar and Floyd split $79,000,000 and only $45,700,000 came from the $138,700,000. The fighters guarantee's were $33,300,000.
     
  10. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Floyd's marketing power is a lot higher. In his RECENT fight with Cotto, he did $94,000,000 in revenue. Manny against Marquez did $74,000,000.

    Your also not getting that Floyd's payday's are much higher than Manny Pac's paydays. Why should Floyd only get $2,500,000 more to fight Manny than his high payday, while Manny would get $27,500,000 more his high payday?
     
  11. bandido

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  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Floyd does more revenue bro. Look at there 5 common opponents.

    Or just look at their last fights...If you wanna be real, we can wait till Bradley fights Manny and see what those revenue figures add up to....or we can say **** the timeline and just do COMMON OPPONENTS.

    You should check out Megavolt's thread...he explained it very very well.
     
  13. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    So Floyd would get $2,500,000 more his high payday of $50,000,000 and Manny would get $27,500,000 more than his high payday of $25,000,000. Not a fair deal.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    keep drinking the kool aid bro. i ask you again, why would pac accept a deal that would not give him a single share of the PPV when this fighy is expected to break all records?
     
  15. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    #1. 50 million is not verified
    #2. you are comparing what Floyd earns as both fighter and promoter vs. what Pac earns as fighter. The split is not just between Pac and Floyd, it is between Floyd/GBP and Pac/TR.