Andre Berto tests positive for Enhancers. Should Ward, Donaire and Judah be tested?

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  1. jawbreaker

    jawbreaker Active Member Full Member

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    There is no such thing as a random urine test in boxing.:patsch
    Urine test are mandatory and scheduled which is why they are beatable.
     
  2. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because your not seeing the real fighters strength just the roid's strength. Also they have a lot of negative side affects, are illegal and fighters at the lower level would have to be allowed to then use them too to name a few. Also I'd bet grands guy's like Calzaghe are clean.
     
  3. jawbreaker

    jawbreaker Active Member Full Member

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    Andre Berto Fails VADA Drug Test, Victor Conte Responds

    Another major fight may have bitten the dust under the weight of true random blood testing and the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) protocol. Andre Berto, who is working with infamous doping expert, Victor Conte, has tested positive for a banned substance with just about a month before his scheduled rematch with Victor Ortiz on June 23.

    Berto, a two-time world welterweight champ, allegedly tested positive for nandrolone, an anabolic steroid.

    Victor Conte, who has dealt in illegal supplements in the past, has taken his case to Twitter, speculating that the positive test result could be as a result of a contaminated supplement Berto had used on his own.

    "Andre has admitted that he was using additional supplements that were not provided to him by me," Conte wrote. "I have recently warned several elite boxers about taking supplements I believe are not effective & possibly contaminated. Not all listen...I encourage my fighters to do VADA testing & will continue to do so."

    Ironically, Berto had accused Victor Ortiz of having used performance enhancing drugs following his unanimous decision loss to Ortiz last year.
     
  4. jawbreaker

    jawbreaker Active Member Full Member

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    Fighters at the lower levels are using them. Boxing has become the MLB of the ninties. It is time to stop turning a blind eye to an epidemic that is plaquing this sport.
     
  5. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    do you really don jose is gonna pay for vada testing for every guy that is or will be ranked in the top 50 ?

    :lol:
     
  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Relatively poor sports like cycling have extremely rigorous testing systems. How come?? I don't think that the testing is as costly as some people make it appear. I agree with you it is up to the sanctioning bodies to impose it. But here we go back to the same old problems. There are 100 sanctioning bodies. Honestly if the authorities were strict they should ban a sport as dangerous and disorganized as boxing
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    TBF, drugs don't give one skills such as ring generalship and evasive manuevers with footwork and blocking but they are unfair. If ya have nothing to hide you should get tested but Berto did fall under the common misconception that druggies always are ripped. Really this should be a surprise to no one as many athletes if not most or almost all look for a drive somewhere whether it be from drugs or having paid off judges/refs. Hate that but it's here to stay.......

    It's not like Berto relied on skills anyway but all jokes aside this is bad news.
     
  9. dmaq

    dmaq Member Full Member

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    this sucks but I'm not as mad about this one as much as khan peterson.. mostly b/c I've heard ortiz-alexander.

    rather see this than a rematch where i think ortiz won clearly and i don't think a rematch would bring any different results.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe it costs something like $20,000 per fight. That's fight for individual fights and when you consider a multi-million dollar fight, it's not an issue. However, if a board or governing body covers every boxing match, you're looking at millions. Even if they only do world title fights, it's a massive amount of money because it wouldn't be a one off and the likes of USADA would have to employ more and more people.

    The bigger testing is, the more fighters it covers and then that reasonable $20,000 per fight would multiply rapidly, until it becomes unfeasible.
     
  11. jawbreaker

    jawbreaker Active Member Full Member

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    Actually the more testing that is done, the cost come down.
     
  12. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I try to find some reliable source how much the random testing costs in sports like tennis and cycling. I don't think that it is as much as you suppose but if you have some link could you send it to me?

    What I found is this article which suggest that the drug test worldwide per year are 100000 and cost 30 milions. That makes around 300 per test which is of course a very rough estimation but sound feasible. I think that when a sport does it in an organized fashion and not sporadically for a fight or two it will cost less.

    http://www.theathlete.org/Drug-Testing-In-Sports.htm
     
  13. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Yeah, but how far?
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Per fight, a little bit, yes, but the sheer numbers of fights that have to be closely monitored would mean a huge amount of money overall.
     
  15. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    So is Conte involved in VADA?

    That's crazy. He's playing both sides if so.

    If he's juicing his fighters & they win? He gets paid. If fighters fail which kicks up a **** storm guess what? More fights will be subjected to VADA testing & he gets paid again.