Why was Cotto so much easier for Pacquiao than he was for Mayweather?

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  1. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    unshot cotto vs shot cotto
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    weight and trainer..makes a difference when you can eat 2 1/2 days before a fight and a day before a fight and the day of a fight.

    24/7 Pac Cotto shows Cotto starving himself to make weight.
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    Pac eats left hand dominant fighters alive. Always has, always will.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Also, Cotto is a guy who has a good arsenal, is patient, likes to pick his spots. Floyd's counterpunching style allows him to do that. Pac's offense which is really on another level doesn't allow Cotto to think. Pac is too dynamic for a guy like Cotto who is a patient operator. He'll walk guys down slowly and steadily. Floyd prefers someone who is reckless or who makes mistakes. Pac just overwhelms guys like Cotto, especially when they have such glaring defensive holes and suspect chins. Pac's offense is too unorthodox for a guy like Cotto to react to.
     
  5. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    :patschAgapito Sanchez believes otherwise.
     
  6. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    :patsch Cotto was eating fine. . He just had to diet a little, which 99% of boxers do to make weight. . . LOL, he did not "not eat for two days" before the weigh-in. . SMH. . and why would he not eat after the weigh-in, and before the fight? LOL, there was no "rehydration clause"

    I know hte scene you're talking about - it's when his camp members are pigging out, and he is just tlaking about how it's frustrating cause he can't eat like they can.

    That's why he's not as fast at 154 - carrying around excess body fat. . lol cotto had lvoe handles at 154. . .

    Diaz is a great trainer, but when you're at hte level Cotto is, a trainer ain't gonna make that much of a difference. . .

    Pac fought a leaner, meaner, fleeter of hand, and foot Cotto. . . Not to mention the beating Pac put on him - Cotto left some of his soul in the ring that night. . . And Pac consumed some as well.
     
  7. catnthehat

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    not from what I saw..he was getting mad about everything...he even said in the 24/7 that he couldn't eat. He is faster at 154 from what I've seen. pac fought a drained weak Cotto.
    I thoroughly dissagree with your opinion. The guy was nowhere near what he is at 147 at the time...154 now days.

    And I never said he couldn't eat after the weigh in..he was already drained by that point though.
     
  8. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    lol Pac is considered wreckless...he always loses awareness of his body position...he over commits on his punches and his body position is ****ed up..not to mention him running in with his sloppy footwork at times...

    Manny Pacquiao is tailormade for Floyd Mayweather to take advantage of.
     
  9. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I disagree with your opinion as well, kind sir :bbb

    Cotto might have been a little physically stronger at 154, but it sure as hell didn't seem to improve his stamina. . . His punch output in the championship rounds was atrocious. . .


    Cotto was not drained like Rios, or something. . He simply had to diet, which 99% of all boxers do to make weight. . . At 154 he can eat whatever he wants, and just train hard - but that's probably not a good thing. . . He has love handles, and excess body fat at 154.


    Floyd really has to eat his words fighting "Pac's leftovers". . ALthough that whole concept is just ridiculous anyway. . Cotto wasn't shot at all fighting Floyd, but Pac definitely fought a better Cotto, and deserves a little more credit.
     
  10. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Good to go:good Dissagree...Speed isn't going to frustrate Mayweather....not for long at least...Strength and size will frustrate him more.. He didn't fight Pac's leftovers though...that's like me saying Pac fought Margarito's leftovers.

    I think Floyd fought the better Cotto. Cotto had little to no confidence after Margarito 1. He had a **** load of confidence after Margartio 2.

    I don't see his love handles at 54...At 47, Cotto wasn't as strong....Floyd wouldn't have had to deal with the big shouldes and the ridiculous strength at 47.

    I'll agree to dissagree though.

    Pac's style is tailormade for Floyd. Floyd will capitalize on his mistakes all night. All that running in and losing awareness of body position by Manny will be his downfall.:good
     
  11. king khan

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    who wins in a fight between me and you, my good man!!! 5, 3 minute rounds. . . 12 oz gloves. . 24 foot ring.
     
  12. esrotak

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    In a close fight (so close it could've gone either way), how can you say that other fighter "got schooled"? Even worse part is that you are referring to the winner of the fight. Just like teaching someone a lesson you failed to learn.

    I bet you're good in math because you still have the habit of "rounding off" the age to nearerst "tens". JMM was 35+ when Floyd fought him so that means he was 40 then, right?

    Anyway, the reason the fight was so close is because both these guys knew each other and had fought 24 rounds in their younger years. So young that they went "Toe-to-toe" for full 24 rounds. Knowing both fighter are not afraid to go "toe-to-toe" with each other, they decided to be more careful on their 3rd fight. They knew each other well. They respect each other inside the ring. They didn't want to repeat the same mistakes from their last fight.

    The conclusion is that neither of them were successful. Both failed. Who got schooled if noone even learned? Despite they learned to avoid the same mistakes, they still still couldn't figure out how to beat each other.
     
  13. Floyd does not have the offense at 147and + to deter real pressure fighters not over 35 from attackjng.
     
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  15. RoughD

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    the same reason pac has struggled (and lost!) with JMM and floyd dominated him.
    Floyd fought the better more confident and stronger version of cotto with the better trainer, everyone knows that except *******s