BERTO - ORTIZ II saved (could it have been)????? Berto may in fact be CLEAN

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  1. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually read that Toney's Doc did confirm that he issued the steriod to Toney in order to help speed up his recovery time. It went in depth regarding how common this steriod was for athletes to use in order to help them heal and get back to training. I'll see if I can find that link....that's an interesting story about ****** and Toney.
     
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  3. Bazooka

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  4. KnuckleUp99

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    Ron Scott Stevens was they NYSAC commissioner at the time and even he said that James did in fact provide documentation from his own physician and one from an independent physician regarding James' positive test results and the reason behind prescribing that particular steriod to him.
     
  5. KnuckleUp99

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    Still looking but I know I read it somewhere.
     
  6. chilli&lemon

    chilli&lemon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't believe Berto is a juicer, if he was, he wouldn't gas after 5 rounds.
     
  7. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    If this is true hes clean in my books
     
  8. Imperial1

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    All the steroids in the world couldn't help his boxing skill thats the reason he gasses ..He loves to load up on punches ..
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    My question is what's the hold up on him being cleared to fight? If this is true, why isn't this being expressed on a grander level, and why are Ortiz and camp moving ahead as if this news isn't relevent?
     
  10. Bazooka

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    His Dr never made a single statement there, that was Goosen telling his version of the story. No where in that article or any other will you find Toneys Dr stepping up and backing his story.

    You have two people talking Goosen and Toneys attorney no Dr statement at all there.
     
  11. boxon123

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    There are also significant competitive risks posed by contaminated supplements. The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has identified supplement contamination as a serious concern in sport. WADA officially consider that athletes who counter a positive doping test with the defense that they were unaware of the precise contents of the supplement due to improper labeling or contamination are guilty. In the resolution of any dispute as to whether the athlete ought to have known the composition of the supplement, WADA will seek adherence to the legal principle of strict liability as the correct standard, entirely shifting to the athlete the responsibility for what he or she ingests.
     
  12. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe Berto's story
     
  13. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's actually not the article I read where Toney's Doc confirmed his story...that's just one of a few that I've found which corroborates James's story.
     
  14. JDK

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    I highly doubt this fight still happens. At least not on the original date.
    There are too many questions and both teams probably need to re-focus on a proper camp again.
    There's also a whole lot team Berto would need to answer to before GBP moves forward with any deal. Berto said he was taking "other" supplements along with conte's?