BERTO - ORTIZ II saved (could it have been)????? Berto may in fact be CLEAN

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by megavolt, May 21, 2012.


  1. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berto! What the hell have you've been eating?!? :lol:
     
  2. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fried peds
     
  3. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My whole thing is this....if Berto is going to get off using the same excuse James did, years prior then we would have to be fair to James who lost his title with traces of the same steriod Berto was found with.

    I don't think James Doc did lie or would lie....I don't think Toney's attorney would provide the NYSAC with false documentation/affidavit forging a physicians signature.

    The commission wouldn't overturn a fight if the fighter tested dirty...no matter what excuse. Berto will soon find that out. The commission strictly enforces that a fighter is solely responsible for any illegal substance that he positively tests for.

    To be honest...I believed James up until he tested dirty again in the Batchler fight. I'm very familiar with the steriod James and Berto tested positive for and their stories are believable.....but at the end of the day the rules are the rules and a mistake was made in both cases.
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Toney has been caught again give it up already yes Toney skilled fighter but he is a steroid abuser
     
  5. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Berto was just an idiot for taking a supplement that wasn't reputable. That's always a danger with supplements, countless athletes have unintentionally ingested banned substances this way. You might think it's an excuse but it happens, I always believed Berto wasn't trying to cheat. He's an overrated fighter and obviously not that bright but he's not a cheat.
     
  6. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said I "believed" James up until it happened again.....I just can't bring myself to believe Berto considering he too had a torn bicep which sometimes happens with steroid abusers.
     
  7. benebox

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    I doupt any excuse is going to get him off