What is a realistic "p4p atg top 10" in your oppinion?

in my opinion what hurts todays boxers is that they now care to much about the money. Mayweather and Pacquiao have the skills required to become top ATG's but they havent even faced each other to be up there. It is true that most sports have improved vastly but to me whats different about boxing is that it is a physical and mental sport. Also i think even though it has some truth to it it is a lie that old boxers will always be above modern ones. look at Duran and SRL they arent that old and Duran is top 10 in every ATG list and SRL is top 15 or top 10 the difference between them and Mayweather and Pacquiao is that they fought everyone at every weight class they went up too

 

While I agree that the old-timer's do get overrated sometimes, by contrast a lot of modern fans think they're overrated out of pure ignorance. The sheep mentality thing swings both ways.

Put simply, unless you've been following the sport for a very long time, you have no business drawing up any sort of list. Especially P4P lists. You're not qualified.

To suggest that modern fighters are greater than old-timers based on the fact that they are bigger, stronger and faster (So they say) is looking at things from completely the wrong angle.

By that definition, fighters (All fighters) ten or twenty years from now will be 'greater' than all the fighters throughout the history of the sport, including today's crop. They will be stronger, faster and fitter, due to more modern training and diets.

It's an idiotic stance to say the least.

 

I think you need to some more research.

 

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Mayweather is my favorite current boxer but you cant even put him and langford in the same sentence, Langford a guy who went from lightweight to koing one of the best heavyweights and doing it while partially blind

 

I for one, and many other too, think a hell of a lot of Mayweather. He is an exceptional talent, and at least at 130 maybe 135 one of the best of all time.
In terms of pure skill, he gives way to very few.

But here we have a little issue...Pacquiao. Still haven't fought. I'm not laying blame at anyone's doorstep, but they haven't fought. How can anyone call themselves an ATG without fighting the most obvious threat out there? He is an ATG, don't get me wrong, but he could do even more to cement that status. Same for Pacquiao.

60, 70 years ago this **** would never have happened. They would have fought at least once, maybe two, three, four times...depending on how competitive the fights were.

Then some new boxing fan comes along, checks Boxrec and sees (For example) that Mayweather or Pacquiao lost three or four times to the same guy, and dismisses him as a bum.

 

Exhibit A. :rofl

 

LOL a top ten of american fighters right.... the media influenced you guys too easily .. love how all time great lists are always made up of american fighters only


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If it makes you feel any better I have Wilde as an ATG :happy

 

Why do people put Duran in front of Leonard??

 

I'd have the Rock and possibly dempsey in there.

 

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