Conte:"Testing should be 10 Weeks to 2 Weeks from Fight"

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  1. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I admit I don't follow the details as rigidly as some of you folks but it seems like all you fellas do is blame Pacquaio instead of both sides for not making the fight.

    Lets see them do it with a 14 day cut off as Conte suggests.
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    exclude yourself from the conversation you dummy.

    Pac agreed to 24 days after the Hatton video surfaced. Your now out of the conversation. LOL at how he changes the words. This guy is always getting caught trying to change words around. From here on out, I say your word and sources no longer count. Now leave the forum.:patsch:bbb
     
  3. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Pretty much this. You may youtube the video of Pac being tested 24 days in advance for a HIV test.
     
  4. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    There was "no 2nd negotiation" because Mayweather had 0 cutoff for the drug testing. Pac and his team immideately said 7 days. Floyd saw no reason to negotiate and Team pac continued to deal with ghosts.
     
  5. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feaiavf7KwY[/ame]
     
  6. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Conte in other articles also clearly explains there is a period in which an athlete is slower and has tighter muscles when on PEDs. Haven't we seen this on 24/7 with Pac. He looks like **** during traning camp than all of the sudden everything is alright right before a fight? It's consistent with how Conte says boxers could cheat the system. FYI, Conte finds both Manny and Floyd suspicious. If you're going to cite him *******s, you better accept that he thinks your idol cheats based on his professional expertise in this area.
     
  7. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no way this can even be an arguement anymore, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto have all gone through the testing and Mayweather has gone through it 3 times. There is no evidence that backs up that testing will interupt training, weaken fighters or any other excuses the Pac's team made up. There has not been one negative comment made about the testing by any of the 3 fighters that have gone through the process with Mayweather.
     
  8. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac will test - If he gets 50/50.

    Why is this still an issue?
     
  9. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    because Floyd isn't willing to get raped in negotiations...Pac averages 33% less than Floyd in revenue. I know you don't like it but this counts.

    That's a **** load of revenue..here you go.

    De La Hoya-Mayweather $137,800,000 (1st in revenue) 10.0 guarantee 16.2 profits = $26,200,000
    De La Hoya-Pacquiao $70,000,000-ended up with 6.9 guarantee 13.1 profits=$20,000,000

    Mosley-Mayweather $78,000,000 (2nd highest at the time)-22.5 guarantee 17.5 profits=$40,000,000
    Mosley-Pacquiao $69,000,000 ended up with 6.9 guarantee 11.1 profits =$18,000,000

    Hatton Mayweather $47,000,000 11.0 guarantee 12.0 profits= $23,000,000
    Hatton Pacquiao $45,000,000 6.0 guarantee 10.1 profits=$17,100,000

    Marquez Mayweather $53,000,000 15.0 guarantee 10.0 profits $25,000,000
    Marquez Pacquiao $74,000,000 7.4 guarantee 18.1 profits $25,000,000

    Cotto Mayweather $94,000,000 (2nd in revenue up to date)32.0 guarantee 18.0 profits=$50,000,000
    Cott Pacquiao $70,500,000 7.4 guarantee 17.6 profits=$25,000,000

    So add those up and divide by 5 and you'll see why the 50/50 isn't fair.

    Also, Pac has a career high of $25,000,000 and Floyd has a career high of $50,000,000.

    So if Floyd gets raped in negotiations and takes 50/50, he'd get $2,500,000 more his high payday for a fight, while Manny would get $27,500,000 more his high payday. Not a fair deal for a couple of reasons. But the revenue speaks the loudest voice. Pac is not on Floyd's level man. I know you hate that but it is what it is.:hi::bbb
     
  10. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd gets a higher guarantee, doen't have Top Rank between him and his bottom line and you can post every metric you like, it doesn't change the fact that perceptions wise - If Floyd doesn't fight him when Pac offers 50/50 - History won't give a **** about the PPV numbers.

    Less than 5000 people saw Corrales Castillo I @ Mandalay bay - But people don't remember how many people saw it or what the PPV revenue was - They remember it as one of the greatest comebacks in sports history.

    All your numbers do is cloud the issue.

    You can post any emoticon you like. If it's OK for Floyd to create his own drug testing regimen, then Pac can ask for 50-50
     
  11. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Cool bro.:good But we are talking negotiations, not what the fans want....we are talking what is fair and acceptable based on past ppv numbers, for a fighter to share, not what me or you think is fair.:good
     
  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Drug testing is a non issue in this day of age in sports. The drug testing and purse splits are not even related. When Floyd negotiates with Cotto, Ortiz, or Mosley, the drug testing has 0 to do with anything with the purse split. The drug testing should be automatic for Pac to agree to, but for some strange reason:huh:huh:think, it isn't...can't figure out why though.:think:huh
     
  13. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Such a bunch of ******s.

    The reason why only steroids were mentioned is because it's the drug that you want caught DURING TRAINING.
    i.e. ALL PED'S THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON A BOXER'S PERFORMANCE SHOULD BE TAKEN AT MOST 14 DAYS BEFORE THE ACTUAL FIGHT AND DURING TRAINING. BEYOND 14 DAYS, IT IS JUST A VERY EXPENSIVE PLACEBO DRUG.

    All the other PED's that you want to be in your system DURING THE FIGHT WILL BE CAUGHT BY THE URINE AND BLOOD TESTING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE MATCH THAT PAC AGREED TO SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.

    Let me say that again:
    Pac agreed to unlimited urine testing and blood testing immediately after the fight.
    That means whatever PED that should be taken until and during the fight, wait for it, WILL BE CAUGHT.

    Damn I can't believe I'm even debating against sheeps who, for the love of God, only got the whole thing out of Sr's mouth.
    SERIOUSLY, SR?

    Seriously, can any ***** still defend this ****?
    14 days cutoff + unlimited urine + blood testing IMMEDIATELY after the fight has always been good IF YOUR ONLY INTENTION IS TO MAKE SURE YOUR OPPONENT IS CLEAN.
     
  14. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The question is, do you seriously believe that the "no cutoff" bull**** was created to:

    A) Make sure Pac is clean, or;
    B) Create a smokescreen that he can hold onto until he is more confident he can whoop Pac's ass, you know, like after JMM exposed Pac again?
     
  15. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately for you idiot, Pac offered 14 day cutoff too and Mayweather flat out rejected it.
    This is even after mediators told Mayweather that 14 days is more than enough for a cut off.

    So did Mayweather really wanted Pac clean, or simply to create a roadblock?

    *****s owning themselves big time. :yep