It's Impossible For A british Fighter To Be Underrated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, May 21, 2012.


  1. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    Had a look through the thread to see if you were right, and surprise surprise almost nobody agreed with you actually. The couple of posts that did say some fighters were overrated were not much different from my stance which is that some are, but others get too much criticism. Here are all the people who disagree with me....:lol:



    A lot of those posters are Brits obviously. But not all and it goes to show that your bias even permeates your reading comprehension as the vast majority of replies to this thread are not agreeing with you at all.

    To be clear, some British fighters get overhyped. As do fighters from many nations. But a British fighter CAN be underrated and not all British fighters are hyped.

    Had you even heard of Barker or Murray before they fought Martinez and Sturm? Murray was 23-0 but nobody was hyping him. Barker was also 23-0 and again, no hype and nobody in Britain giving him a chance of beating Martinez for obvious reasons.
     
  2. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cal-Slappy is possibly the most overrated fighter on here.....
     
  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here Strike, I've put the part you need to pay attention to in bold. Any fighter that shows any PROMISE (as in, not a 20-0 guy who is clearly going nowhere), is hyped to ******ed levels beyond their true ability. Said hype influences even would be "rational" fans. This can happen everywhere, but happens to an extreme in britain.
     
  4. TerryESB

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    David Price and Tyson Fury can win the HeavyWeight championship belts when the Klitschkos retire.
     
  5. Strike

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    It does happen. But not all promising fighters are overhyped. Burns is a prime example. He is a World Champion and not only ignored but had most of the Brit forum picking Katsidis to destroy him. When Burns won in dominant fashion, most just said Katsidis was shot.

    Our media hype all sporting prospects and then look to shoot them down and denigrate them. Khan gets as much stick if not more on the Brit forum than anywhere else.

    Barker looked a good fighter, but at 23-0 nobody was hyping him. Sometimes Brits come on to the General to troll. All the Kell Brook stuff for example is pure trolling on the most part, because the General Forum is often so jingoistic and anti British (in the past at least, I don't post here much now).

    Price is getting some hype but not to the extent you're implying. On that other thread you're saying Brits are all saying he would take Wlad etc....but next to none of the posts say anything of the sort. It appears that you read into things what you imagine is there.

    The only fight I think being over hyped in British forums is Brook. People are raving about him when he has barely fought anyone.
     
  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burns lost to two journeymen early on and has since gone on to beat a few bums and Katsidis who was coming off two losses. All that paired with a 25% KO ratio? Not even british media could hype that.

    The brits like to pick fighters who actually have a slight chance at becoming something before pouring heaps of undeserved hype on them. Understand now?
     
  7. Strike

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    All you are doing is nicely highlighting how ignorant and biased you are. Hopkins lost his first fight to a "bum". Glencoffe Johnson lost numerous fights but has still been able to mix it with top tier fighters and either hold his own or win. Neither of the men he lost to are top class but neither are journeymen either and he has developed as a fighter. Do you even know what a journeyman is? Alex Arthur has a 31-3 record with 21 stoppages, was a European Champion and fought for a World Title. In what world is that a journeyman?:patsch

    Burns doesn't hit hard no. So what? Not every good fighter is a banger. Willie Pep had a KO ratio of about 30% too.

    Before you pull a strawman, I'm not comparing Burns to Pep, but the point of his KO ratio is rather floored. So what is "becoming something" in your wildly biased view? Being a HOF fighter?:lol:

    Burns beat Roman Martinez. He is a "bum"? You're doing a great job here of showing how well you know the sport.

    Burns is a World Champion. Not the best and not at the very top of his division. But he has already "becoming something" in the sport to a degree that few professional fighters can ever hope to achieve.

    So tell me what counts as "becoming something"? Because I'd pick Darren Barker to beat Felix Sturm and at 23-0 he challenged for a world title. Why wasn't he hyped? Oh let me guess, he has no chance of ever "becoming something".:roll:

    It seems to be that what you are inadvertently saying is that the ones who get hype are extremely talented and show signs of being not only world title challenges but more.:lol: So in that case, they kind of warrant some hype, no?
     
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the point exactly. How is it taking you so long to catch on? The extremely talented fighters that start off in britain do indeed "kind of warrant some hype". The point is that the few fighters that deserve a bit of hype aren't getting "some" hype. They are getting absolutely absurd amounts of hype, to the point where most of it is totally unwarranted (which is where the issue lies).
     
  9. Strike

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    It took me so long to get it because your post was so riddled with bias and poorly written that it was not clear. If they warrant hype then getting upset about it being too much is rather pointless. Unless a lot of people are touting someone to be top 20 p4p of all time, who cares too much? As I said, Brook is being hyped, it is too much IMO but not ludicrous. He is not all over the mainstream press or being talked up as a an ATG British fighter.

    And the hype that Hatton et al got in the past is not really any more than guys like Lacy (who you keep denying is relevant) got in the past. The fact is that fighters such as Lacy got the same hype if not more and then it died with his loss. Hattons hype died when his level was shown.

    If you want to make the point you are now claiming then try avoiding called multiple world champions B level fighters and guys who have fought for world titles and won European titles as "journeymen" when they have 31-3 records.
     
  10. Peter__1987

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    Hahahahahahha!!! GENIUS!
     
  11. Peter__1987

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    and by the way the americans are just as guilty as this, shall we not forget the next great heavyweight champion Michael Grant? who almost got decapitated by Lennox Lewis.


    Here's the formula employed by american boxing fans, Fighter A is awesome, he's unbeatable, he's the next king UNTIL he loses to a british fighter then he sucked and was overrated anyway and the british fighter who beat him is also supremely overrated.

    Michael Grant and Jeff Lacy are prime examples of this formula.
     
  12. Threetime no1

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    It's funny watching Strike own Slyk.

    Slyk who makes a false sweeping generalisation, chooses to ignore any view opposing his and says good post to any that fall in line with what he is saying.

    He responds to Strike who comes along and gives him reasoned explanations and objective views on the subject, but all Slyk can do is reply to the one part of Strike's posts he can comprehend or that suits his agenda driven guff and uses other peoples posts to form his own argument. :patsch

    The guy's a xenophobic goon who's blind hatred of the UK and utter contempt of the fighters that originate from here make it impossible for him to comprehend the truth of the matter or form a reasoned argument.

    @Strike - mate your posts are excellent, i think the guy is a closed book but respect to ya for balancing his shitty biased views out with some good old common sense. :thumbsup
     
  13. shaunster101

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    Oh look, he's talking about Britain and trying to provoke British posters.

    You poor, sad *******.
     
  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    Oh man, you're a straight up whingey little *****.

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    :| "Stop hyping fighters who might end up losing" :|

    Actually complaining that fighters from a certain piece of land receive more hype from fighters from another piece of land. Seriously, what kind of an insecure, boring ******* would even get worked up about this, let alone take the time to start a thread about it.

    I have a suggestion - if you don't like the fact that some people might over rate a fighter then ignore them, use your own eyes and rate them how YOU see fit. Take no notice of others. Or, if it makes you happy start a thread and cry like pre-pubescent little girl. Your call man.
     
  15. PityTheFool

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    Ricky wasn't given a chance by the British media when he fought Martinez and it was only when he beat Katsidis that they started to take him seriously.
    Burns is probably the most underhyped British fighter of recent years and since Martinez,he's answered every question asked of him.
    I suspect you knew when you posted you were bullshitting.You needed some attention and this was a good way to get it so well done.