Greatest Canadian Fighters by Lou Eisen

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again the source is: The Ultimate Book of Boxing Lists by Teddy Atlas and Bert Sugar.

    I never posted this before because I didn´t see the point to do so...but we have been posting some lists during those days so take a look at it.....

    Well, I don´t know who Lou Eisen is but they stated in the book that he is a historian and a boxing columnist for The Fight Network.

    1- George Chuvalo
    2- George Dixon
    3- Sam Langford
    4- Johnny Coulon
    5- Tommy Burns
    6- Larry Gains
    7- Arturo Gatti
    8- Jack Delaney
    9- Lou Broulliard
    10- Horace "Lefty" Gwynne

    Yes, Chuvalo is the number 1.

    Langford is the third canadian ever ! And Gatti is a top 10 (nothing against Gatti, I´m a fan) ranked over guys like Delaney and Broulliard lol
     
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    No Earl Walls? O dear
     
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    No Arthur King??
     
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    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    again lists are impossible, always some overlooked & some forgotten.

    I can't even remember some of the top fighters during the Golden Era of the 1930s & 40s when I was researching 10 years ago, but trust me there are a few missing!

    what about Vic Folley for example, late 20s & 30s, a lot of draws on his record, many no doubt could have been wins, fought Canzoneri, Todd Morgan (Jr. Champion), and supposedly couldn't get near McClarnin - which I believe whole heartedly.

    Montreal had many, many top lads then, many who were world's Top 10 fighters and there were a few more too, like Canada Lee, Brouilard, Al McCoy ( feared L-HW, fought Louis), Sonny Jones and just too, too many more I can't think of.
     
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    This guy!

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    yep he should be up there, because he did take up boxing and in canada :deal
     
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    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that has just killed the whole thread - NOT that he wasn't good, he's just not as good as some more deserving.

    plus he (and others), IS a S-HW, that changes everything!!!
     
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    my wife got me the book for christmas and i shuttered. one of the shittier lists in that book and that's saying something
     
  9. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Chuvalo is greater than Langford.....:deal :yep:
     
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    :good....:huh....:think....:patsch....

    which means that chuvalo is higher than langford, a lock for top 5? so chuvalo is top 5 all time?? :blood
    or is it that chuvalo is more canadian than langford:canada
     
  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don´t know :conf :lol:
     
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    I think the Hilton Bros should go 1-2-3... The order is the only debateable issue.
     
  13. Lord Tywin

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    Johnny Coulon was as Canadian as apple pie. He grew up in Chicago, learned to box there, lived there the vast majority of his life, and fought in Canada a grand total of ONCE.

    You might as well add Jimmy McLarnin who was born there, started boxing there, and lo and behold even managed to fight there a whole TWO times...


    I guess Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest African fighter of all time.

    Willie Pep may have been the greatest Italian fighter.

    :patsch

    Where is Bob Cleroux, you know, the guy who actually beat Chuvalo twice in Canada.
     
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    McLarnin was born in Hillsborough. County Down, Northern Ireland, UK.
     
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    Stating something does not make it so ,as this list proves.


    Gatti was born in Calabria Italy.

    Lou Eisen wrote an obituary for Bert Sugar in his forum , entitled
    " Boxing's Greatest Writer Dies". Controversial to say the least. Eisen also states in that piece that Sugar told him that Marciano lost a fight to Ted Lowry , but owing to pressure from the mob the verdict was CHANGED to a unanimous decision for Marciano.
    This must be news to Ted Lowry who in a Ring interview, a couple of years back,never mentioned it.
    In short Mr Eisen. like that other self styled "boxing historian " also from Canada , Dan Mcafferty, is a wannabee who is FULL OF ****. Here is the link to Eisen's piece.

    http://touchinggloves.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/boxings-greates-writer-dies.html