Conte:"Testing should be 10 Weeks to 2 Weeks from Fight"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RJJFan, May 22, 2012.


  1. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep First Floyd's testing was too much extra, no need. Then after they saw people doing it without issue his testing wasn't good enough because it wasn't year round... Now that the tests are catching people they want to back track and say it needs a cutoff, instead of the period before the fight or year round? ****ing kidding me? :-(

    Agenda's exposed.
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    The tests can stop at anytime. They can stop at 4 days or 30 days or 8 days or 9 days or 12 days or 44 days or 1 day or 6 days or 3 days...fighters do not know this info.:deal

    Pac may have gotten lucky and had his testing stop 24 days before the fight, if he had chose not to duck Floyd.

    Michael Phelps was last tested 23 days before the olympics started and not tested again until the day of his last race...He tested positive. Mosley and Mayweather both passed their tests post fight.

    The fighters/athletes are not told this info and the integrity of the tests is still in place.:bbb
     
  3. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think the tests definitely should be random; but as far as i know, the current NSAC procedures DO implement random urines? That's how that one UFC dude, Overeem got popped. . The drug testers popped up at the press conference unannounced. . .


    But I do think there should be at least a 10 day cutoff for random blood testing (if they even should do blood testing at all - as far as i know, not even olympians are blood tested? are they?) . . . I've seen firsthand what a human error in the nurse can do to your arm if she sticks you in the wrong place. . . It's not a pleasant experience, and you'll have bruising/soreness for a week. . .


    Random urines up to day of fight, and a certain time period after the fight (or really, if it was up to me, any licensed boxer would be subject YEAR ROUND to randoms), and random bloods 10-14 days before the fight, and for a time period after the fight.
     
  4. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    There should be no cutoff for any tests. They are pro athletes and they should not be afraid to have any drug testing done on them. They are not hitting a baseball, they are hitting each other's heads.

    The NSAC tests are not important. Petersen passed those as a dirty fighter and so did Mosley.
     
  5. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Your boy Khan...or maybe it was Adamek subjected himself to random blood and urnine tests didn't he....year around???:huh

    I may be wrong, but I thought there was a fighter out there who did it year around?:huh
     
  6. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Urines tests only. . Im not sure about blood? I could be wrong cause I really don't know. . But I honestly don't think any athlete, in any sport (olympics included) are subject to blood testing. . . please don't hesistate to correct me if im wrong, casue im honestly not sure. . . that's why i said, if it was up to me, all licensed professional boxers should be subject to random urine tests year round. . .


    I think random urine tests is sufficient, and if both fighters really want to, then random blood tests up to 10 days or os before a fight. . like i said, if the nurse sticks you with that needle wrong, you're going to be in pain, and you WILL have soreness in your arm for a week. . I couldn't bend my arm more than a few degrees for hte first few days, and had bruising all down my forearm, and on the inside of my bicep.
     
  7. catnthehat

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    Phelps gave blood and urine year around. I can't imagine that it only applied to him.
     
  8. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    I have had my blood taken many times and have never had any bruising or anything like that. I have never heard of the olympic athletes experiencing this either...you probably had a bad nurse.
     
  9. thawk888

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    Different PED's have different "half-lives". Deca is extremely fast acting, EPO doesn't require load time, etc. etc.

    OP is quoting a narrow statements in relation to a complex set of drugs and circumstances and acting like it's gospel.
     
  10. boxing_RN

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    You know people react to blood draws differently right? I feel weak for the rest of the day and the arm that was poked feels like somebody punched the **** out of it. I have friends who could probably arm wrestle after having blood drawn. So your experience doesn't mean ****.
     
  11. king khan

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    ah, ok, olympic athletes are subjecting to random blood testing. . . I've heard differently, and jsut didn't know. .


    but i do think there should be a cutoff for random blood tests due the the risk of human error. . . then blood test them after the fight. . . but other then that, random blood tests year round except ten days before the fight.

    random urines should be sufficient to close that ten day gap of no random blood tests. . .

    but other tahn ten days beofre the fight for random bloods - i think random blood and urine should be given year round. . it's just that window before the fight, when the slighest things could effect a fighter physically. . .
     
  12. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    is there any proven scientific research from credible institutions that prove blood tests detect things urine cant? im pretty clueless about the differences in general.
     
  13. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Pacquiao has already said he does not feel weak and he'll only do what the commission asks.

    C'mon, if your trying to have a logical debate, then OK..but don't troll.

    Pacquiao might get lucky and the tests will stop 14 or 18 or 24 or 15 or 17 or 21 or 19 days before the fight. The urine tests will keep going though...or the tests might stop 3 days or 4 days or 9 days or 4 days before the fight...he is an athlete and needs to accept any testing that is neccessary in able to make the biggest fight in the history of the sport...at the very least the biggest money fight.

    :good

    Some olympians don't like it either, but they take them and win gold medals.:thumbsup
     
  14. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Google it. I have read some various articles. Blood testing detects ups and downs in HGH. :thumbsup Google it and you can read about it.
     
  15. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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