Anyone see ringside? Joe just laughed off the thought that froch would beat him!!

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  1. wallworkjake123

    wallworkjake123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you honestly think Froch could have beaten Calzaghe?
     
  2. Let's Boogie!

    Let's Boogie! "Smooth Operator" Full Member

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    Enough of this 'joe had off nights' shite! We're talking both in there prime on there best night, it's a clear points win for calzaghe! But not quite a lacy beat down, the thing is calzaghe was great at adapting and changing his game plan, Froch doesn't seem to have that at all, even if he was to box smart like he did with abraham, joe is a completely different fighter!

    We need flea man on here to set everyone straight.
     
  3. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe had just beaten the best 175 fighter on the planet.

    Froch had just beaten somebody who had fought one 6 rounder in four years.

    Stick to things you know.

    Umm.............backgammon?
     
  4. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's 2012 Dan. Time to let it go.
     
  5. Michael300

    Michael300 Fighting back..... Full Member

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    The difference between Calzaghe and Froch is almost night and day IMO.

    I like Froch, alot actually, I have every one of his fights and you pretty much know that he will give it his all in a fight, I think he would give just about any Super Middle from the past twenty years a good fight, and I think he is one of he best fighters from our shores over the past quarter of a century.

    However..........

    Joe Calzaghe is an all time great IMO, and is argubably the greatest boxer this country has ever produced.

    I think that what he achieved, particularly considering his injury problems was exceptional, and he will surely be remembered as a legend of the sport.:bbb
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Prove it. Prove Eubank was weight drained.

    Funny how he isn't displaying any of the tell tale signs of a fighter who's struggled like crazy to get down to the weight here, eh?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqDEwtu0Ho[/ame]


    That footage was taken the day before the fight shortly after the weigh in by the way. Funny how Eubank didn't have a problem meeting the British Board of Boxing Control's stipulated check weight of 12st 7lbs the week before the fight either, eh? lol


    Joe had never even been past 8 rounds before he fought Eubank and he was making an absolutely gargantuan leap up in class. In fact, he'd only been past 5 on 2 occasions (one of which came against Eubank's cruiserweight cousin) and that was against infinitely lower level caliber of opponents than the likes of Eubank, whereas Eubank had been the full 12 round distance 16 times. So not only was Calzaghe having to bridge that huge leap up in class that night but he was also having to do it over a distance he'd never been close to doing before.

    Here's a video where he elaborates on the reasons why the Eubank fight was so difficult.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eA9uOsCay4&feature=plcp[/ame]


    And another.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr63NdgrrIE[/ame]


    And here's what Eubank had to say about making weight for that fight. lol

    What were your memories of Calzaghe, having fought him for your old title, the vacant WBO super-middleweight belt in '97, that started his reign?

    "Calzaghe was very skilled and had quick hands. He kept his fence up behind his right leg and always punched in the clinches. When his fence was down, his punches landed from out of sight.

    "Taking the a fight on a few days' notice wasn't a problem *Actually it was 11 days notice* - I had done it against powerhouses like Simon Collins and Anthony Logan, guys who had looked dangerous in recent fights. Losing 20 lbs. in a week wasn't a problem - I had lost that in a few days and won world title fights.

    My pleasure. :D
     
  7. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Eubank wasn't weight drained??...but weighed in 20Lbs heavier for his next fight just a few months later. Eubank was a shadow of his former self at the time he fought Calzaghe and never won another fight. They say that timing is everything in boxing and Calzaghe sure knew how to time a fight to get the name on his record.
     
  8. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe gets the blame the Collins dropped out, and Eubank accepted?

    People forget, a very,very green Calzaghe was willing to get in there with a 'peak' Collins.
     
  9. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Not saying that....its just too many people hold up a Eubank win as an example of his greatness when its just not true. Eubank in his pomp would not have been made to look average by Joe, let alone been put down twice.
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I suppose that this "peak" Collins retired in fear rather than get in the ring with the young lion?
     
  11. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not a good win.

    Hell of a gutcheck, but not a win that proves anything.

    A Collins win would have done far more for him. A kid who had been past four rounds only three times signing to fight a fella off the back of Eubank and Benn wins would be massively lauded.

    People forget that bit.
     
  12. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your supposition is probably way off.

    You know why I used the inverted ;)
     
  13. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kessler v Froch was a close, clear win for Kessler between two similar fighters.

    I think it would be a rerun of the Calzaghe v Kessler fight. Competitive but clear for Joe. The poor Reid-esque performances were quite early in his career.
     
  14. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I'm not going to point out the obvious in this post other than to say, as usual, it never happened :D
     
  15. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clearly I am talking hypothetically.

    The cherrypicker did midjudge this one by a mile though by signing didnt he :hey