Is sprinting in any way helpful for boxing?

I wouldn't bother with sprints and put a good resistance circuit in there instead..... Sprints as in the 10 second variety have little use in boxing unless you link them together with very little rest.... In which case it surely becomes an interval run.

IMO of course. It works for me anyway.

 

Thanks for your response. When you say a resistance circuit, are you just talking light weights/medicine ball exercises/bodyweight stuff?

 

Okay, thanks for the reply, not disputing the anaerobic lactic role in boxing, or that weightlifting competitors should not ride a bike for 2 hours. Also agree that the shorter the duration of the athletic event, the more that the anaerobic lactic system and anaerobic alactic is in use. I am just going to resign myself to the idea that maybe I am not able to convey or articulate my thoughts like I would like.

It still would be helpful to check out the website and the presentation, as well as his thoughts on the forums and his articles on further functions of the aerobic energy system's functions, even as it pertains to anaerobic processes, even if you disagree. His proportions show a much further dominant emphasis in combat sports overall on the development of the aerobic energy system to any other energy system. In reading his stuff it makes sense to me and I have seen vast improvements in my own conditioning using his methods. The forum is great to chat like this as well. I will look at the research you have cited. Thanks again.

 

I don't think you get how this works, you're meant to come back at me with some more evidence from your side as well as launching a few personal attacks... you're too nice bro. I had a look at the presentation slides and as I said it didn't explain anything new to me but I'll have a look at the website as well, thanks. If something's helping you make improvements keep at it I guess. Aerobic system is important no doubt, if you do your LSD and get anaerobic conditioning from pad/bag interval drills and sparring I guess you'd have all bases covered.

 

just go and sprint its good. its not gnna be exactly BAD is it, i even class walking far to the shops as part of my daily training

 

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That's right, this should turn into a good ol fashioned internet war. You obviously know your stuff, even if you didn't I wouldn't do the other things that make these threads novels by the end.

I went back and reread your 2nd post and wanted to attempt to clarify what I meant. Know that some of what I said was worded poorly on my part. First, the statistics simply were to illustrate how quickly the aerobic energy system becomes involved even in a 20 sec sprint, but I get what you are saying about the "interval nature of boxing," and that the two sports are not comparable in that regard. Yes, I agree that you have to train for sport specificity. Training a pitcher to have a well developed aerobic system would be ridiculous, as the nature of throwing a curve ball, punting a football, throwing a cross, takedown, and so forth is anaerobic and requires strict energy from the anaerobic alactic system. What I was poorly trying to get at is that the aerobic system works "underneath it all" to regenerate the necessary alactic energy and remove metabolic waste produced in these flurries and any other high level intensity sports activities. I think you said this in one of your posts also.

As far as the 70/30, I was including in the "equation" rest periods as well, which as you stated is aerobic in nature. In addition, parrying punches, circling, and passive periods during rounds in boxing require high demands from the aerobic energy system in order to help "refuel" anaerobic processes as was said so that a fighter can throw punches/flurries again. Perhaps the percentages are off, but the aerobic energy system is doing a great amount of work underneath, which was my point.

As for the AT, yes, you are right, meaning those high HR numbers are tolerable for that period. However, when I stated any extended length of time, I assumed you meant from start to finish which was stupid. Thus you can understand my stating "two very gassed fighters." Obviously in reading your posts, this was a stupid assumption on my part given you know what you are discussing and would consider rest periods. The HR drops below AT probably in a well trained athlete maybe 20-30 seconds within the minute rest in a bout, and by the time for the next round, is probably down in the 140s or if in very good cardio shape, 130s. Come out for the bell, and the HR stays below AT for 20-30 seconds, with high levels of work then raises above AT, stays there for a length of time, dips with "active" breaks during the round, probably still above AT, and so forth.

I definitely do not just believe in LSD, but it is seen almost always as the bad guy and I do believe that there are benefits to it. On the complete other end of the spectrum, maximal intensity exercises that elevates the heart rate to very high BPM are important also due to conditioning self not to fatigue at higher heart rates and still delivers oxygen. In the middle interval stuff, steady state work, etc. has it's place also.

I guess this started with the Tabata discussion, which I firmly believe that these more extreme versions of methods should be used sparingly. Hopefully as for everything else, it made a little more sense, even if not accurate. Feel free to let me know if I am still off base after my explanation. While I feel I have a pretty decent working knowledge of this, you do seem to understand this better than I do.

Lastly as a side not as related to the other things, in a book I have written by Joel Jamieson, he states that research had shown a direct link between mitochondria in the muscle fibers and their relaxation speed, even as it pertains to when high levels of power are generated. I bring this up because the speed of relaxation is usually not talked about. what are your thoughts on this, as it surprised me about the mitochondria's role when I first read it?

I genuinely want to have the right information more-so than just being right. Therefore, let me know if what I am saying is not accurate or you have a different take. At the end of the day, it's not like Ali and Frazier or their trainers had this information when they went 15 rounds at that pace, but I enjoy discussing it all the same. :good

 

This is similar to the style of running I do

 

Yeah I get what you're saying, the aerobic system is important no doubt, it's never just one energy system or the other. They all support each other, you're on the money with that.
Tabata intervals I don't have a problem with apart from the name and people acting as if they're some magical training method. They're just intervals, but for 4 minutes total including rest periods.
I haven't heard about mitochondria and relaxation speed and I don't really understand what the implications are for that so I'll have to suss that out, thanks man

 

I like this idea. I don't like traditional track work (100m sprints), so I'm going to try this.

 

BB: Can you give us a sample routine? Sometimes definitions of intervals and resistance circuits vary. This would be in addition to the once per week long/slow run.