Klitschko Head of Security: No Doubt Wladimir Was Poisoned Against Brewster

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WRONG. After having private talks with wlad over the years and what he said happened to him, his body and the issues in the locker room before the fight, I agree with him and who he thinks is responsible... its my opinion which i am initialed to(you have yours) and its not from being on the payroll.
     
  2. Bazooka

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    What he described before the rematch sounded to me like its a blood sugar issue, is he Hypoglycemic? cus thats kinda what it sounds like....
     
  3. galtone

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    Keep in mind that you don't actually have to "poison" someone to get them so far off their game that they have no chance of winning. Half a sleeping pill would take away the edge from your reflexes and coordination, and of course make you tired.

    The betting patterns on that fight, where the odds dropped DRAMATICALLY at the last moment in favour of Brewster tell the true story. Someone knew what had been done, and the money suddenly piled in on Brewster. The odds virutally NEVER move as far and as fast as they did on the Wlad/Brewster fight.

    Lamon almost certainly had nothing to do with it. They guys betting all of the money on him.........that's a different story.
     
  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think the facts support your assessment. The punch #s are quite similar. The difference between fight 1 and fight 2, other than the result, was in fight 2 there was tightened security in the corner. Fight 2 there were no missing press credential. Fight 2 there was no Sdunek. Fight 2 there was no changing of the water bottle during the break between rds 2-3. Fight 2 there were no missing lab tests from 2 separate labs.

    Only a member of the Klitschko team could have authorized the premature destruction of those samples. Or, in this case, the losing of the samples.

    Several drugs would have the result we saw and not shown up in a post fight drug screen due to their minuscule amts which give desired effect. Ketamine, Rohypnol. Both would cause severe drowsiness in minute doses. Doses small enough to not show up on a routine post fight drug screen but potent enough to cause a loss of strength and energy after about 5-10 minutes after their ingestion.

    And the L hook Brewster landed wasnt what dropped Wlad. MOF, Brewster could have simply waited a round or two and watched Wlad simply fall due to the effect of whatever trace of drug was in that switched water bottle Sdunek gave Wlad that the man/woman with the missing press credential brought to him. IDK if the lab participated in the foul play, but a mbr of team Wlad, Szdunek for instance could very well have the proper authorization to tell the lab workers the tests should be destroyed.

    According to both independent labs hired by Wladimir the SOP for keeping samples was 14 days or more depending on the panels they were running. The lab mgmt offered no excuses as to why the would and DID destroy the samples prior to showing the results to Wladimir.
     
  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    One call from Fritz to the bosses in Vegas and volois........one of the largest betting pattern trends in modern history.:deal
     
  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BINGO:deal
     
  7. theboss

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    :patsch The man was poisoned and only nut jobs VLAD hatters or those who don"t like the critisism of the conformists could possibly not realize this . :deal VLAD gassed once as a sick overtrained kid . thats it . But critizizing the brothers or their competition seems to be the politically correct thing to do nowadays :patsch
     
  8. BigReg

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    How come the poison didn't show up in the post fight drug test?
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Does anyone know what poison was used, and how it was administered?
     
  10. Xanthro

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    Old subject, but Wladimir wasn't poisoned.

    I watched the fight as it happened, and could see Wladimir punching himself out. I even told my wife that if Waldimir isn't careful, he's going to get knocked out.

    There's a reason really really big guys haven't typically been heavyweight champions. Simple movement burns up a huge amount of energy, and they can exhaust themselves.

    That's exactly what happened in this case. Not some secret drugging or poison.
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

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    only crazy people or delusional nuthuggers believe this. stupid conspiracy theorists. Brewsters a better fighter than Purrity and about even with Sanders and dude could bang....combine that with Wlads fragile mandible and you'll always have a possibilty of a KO even if most times Wlad would jab jab push to victory. when wlad fights a guy like prime Brewster there's a always a probability of KO and that's what happened.
     
  12. CHEF

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    if you talk to people that were there behind the scenes, and not just Klitschko people... you will see the entire night in a different light. You may or may not change your mind... but it will make you think long and hard:deal
     
  13. Xanthro

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    Actually, none of that is evidence that Wladimir was drugged.

    Every event is surrounded by details that can be made to look sinister.

    It's why conspiracy theories have so many followers.
     
  14. JASPER

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    this is the kinda **** that make people hate K2 fans and drive people away from the bros in general. even if he was poisoned how are gonna prove it? this only makes his fans look crazy and bitter, get over it and move on
     
  15. JASPER

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    There are a lot of rumours out there that might be true and you have more insight than anyone else (if you where in his camp during that time). but the more this type of **** that is brought it doesnt do anything but make people think that he is trying to make excuses. Its like Berto's recent drug test, if he is really clean no one is gonna believe in the long run because this contamination **** wont fly. once something like this happens you have to put in your rear-view mirror, especially after so much time has passed. the only thing it does is bring up peoples memories of Wlad on his back . . not the WLad of today