I think Prime Fedor's hands are just as fast as JDS, and JDS' defence is pretty much notably crap by boxing standards. Furthermore, Fedor also threatens the takedown, which JDS doesn't, which should open JDS' defence up even more.
Prime Fedor was a beast and would most likely win over JDS [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0UyUdGYS60&feature=g-vrec[/ame]
Prime Fedor humiliates and makes Dos Santos cry..................... Current Fedor? Probably not anymore.
So Prime Fedor is when he was winning... Now that he's losing he's no longer in his prime. I have that right, yes? Okay, so glad we've ruled out the possibility that he's simply not as good as the guys he's fighting, phew. It's not that, clearly, he's just past his prime. Yay for mental gymnastics!
He's showed better defence in 3 minutes against AA than most HW's show in half their career. JDS vs a 05' Fedor would be a hell of a fight. Fedor would need to clinch, and if he couldn't, he'd need to land something heavy. Very, very, heavy. Like he did against Rogers. If he landed that, JDS would go down just as quick. Not saying he would land it tho.
Thank God there are other people who can see Fedor for being the overrated hype job that he is. Once he got out of pride and had to dial down the steroids, he was a notably less effect fighter, and his jaw was just as fragile as ever.
Just for reference, I don't see Fedor as a bad fighter, I think he's an absolutely fantastic fighter but the idolization he gets, nearly to the point of deification, is plainly absurd. 30 + wins in a row is amazingly impressive, of course, but how many of those wins were truly against top competition? Certainly not 30. Similar to Floyd's record in boxing. 43-0? (Correct me if I'm mistaken) Impressive, of course, but perhaps 9 or 10 of them are against truly elite level competition? And perhaps even that is being generous. Of course everyone has to work their way up to the point of being elite level fighters themselves but that doesn't erase the fact of competition level assessment in a fighters record. Moreover, Fedor had truly questionable opposition when he was considered the top Heavyweight in the world. Having tough fights against Middleweights and nearly losing by submission to a kickboxer (you could even throw in the fact that he was losing the fight to a mediocre fighter at best in Brett Rogers (took me a second to even think of his name) before a wild overhand) doesn't look great when assessing the strength of a fighter relative to other fighters who are effectively flawless in their performances against consistant top ranked competition. He certainly deserves to go down in the hypothetical MMA Hall of Fame, clearly, but saying that "in his prime" he would have beat absoltuely anyone, or even have been the statistical favorite to do so is just absurd. And now that he's losing I'm simply pointing out the delusional thinking of his worshippers as I did in the following post: By this same standard we can assume Matt Hughes fell out of his prime just after losing to GSP at UFC 65 (or UFC 79) because he did start to lose a disproportionate amount of fights after that, relative to the amount he was winning prior to those fights. I'm absolutely sure there are other examples but I don't particularly have the inclination to do the mental work to figure out a perfectly analogus example and Matt Hughes, while not a perfect parallel, works well enough for someone who isn't truly splitting hairs. Merely to attempt to illustrate the point. Fedor is a fantastic fighter, a Hall of Fame caliber fighter, but the best in the history of the sport and someone who would be, at least, the favorite to beat anyone in the sport today (or anytime in the last 3-5 years)? I simply do not see it.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy2CTKvn4M[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY6r6xq8Taw[/ame]
Stoo, you starting this thread exposes you for the revisionist anti-fedor crypto-danawhitist that you really are. For some people here, the win streak does not have enough quality opponents, yet they fail to mention this other higher quality win streak that was more impressive and lasted longer. They question whether Fedor was past his prime by starting to lose fights later in his career, like the Werdum loss, who they conveniently forget was in Pride AT THE SAME ****ING TIME AND DIVISION AS FEDOR, and with much less success at that time. Alas, so tell me where I am wrong here?
What you mean Bee. Apparently Fedor was fighting one dimensional bums all his career and only has two top class wins. JDS has beaten Cain, Werdum...and umm...yeah.... :conf JDS > Werdum > Fedor...MMAth at it's finest
So what will you be saying if Junior gets a win over the great Alistair ".500 record with Werdum" Overeem?
