Should Golden Boy show its USADA contracts to Montoya?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kenmore, May 29, 2012.


  1. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh Why the need to lie?

    "It has come to my clients attention that you have been making inquiries and spreading false information regarding Golden Boy's alleged involvement with the drug testing of boxers for prohibited substances."
    "Demand is made that you immediately cease reporting or spreading these false assertions."
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Montoya is no authority figure, he doesnt need to be supplied with anything from GBP. He claims he has good sources that have provided him with this information. If that's true, then I don't see why he would need GBP for anything. He sources should be able to provide him with everything he needs. Now if he's lying, or he knows his sources are bull****, then he will need GBP's cooperation. Being that Montoya is such an upstanding journalist, I'm sure his sources can give him all the proof he needs.
     
  3. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no reason to believe that Montoya's sources can prove what they claim to know. Ultimately, only the contracts will evince the truth. If GBP doesn't want Montoya investigating, then the quickest, surest way to stop is to produce evidence disproving the rumors. The contracts are the evidence.
     
  4. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Montoya is investigating the allegations. He is not claiming the allegations to be true. As a journalist, he is trying to establish the truth or lack of truth of the rumors. That's all.

    It is indeed strange that GBP is reacting in such a touchy way.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So let me get this straight, Montoya has made serious accusations against GBP that threatens their credibility. He has no proof of his, and is reliant on GBP to provide him with evidence. Now why should GBP cooperate with him and take his little investigation seriously?
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reacting in a touchy way by demanding he stop reporting or spreading false statements without proof? :lol::lol: :patsch
     
  7. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    I'm glad you're not a journalist, at least not in a free country.
    A source is usually a starting point and verifiable information is gathered from there. That's all Montoya trying to do here.
    Do we really want journalists (who represent the public's interest in free flow of information BTW) to do nothing with any lead that isn't already 100 percent verified?
    How many bad people would have gotten away with horrible crimes if the free press really operated that way. There literally would be no investigative journalism at all. I really don't think you want to live in that kind of society.
     
  8. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    deja vu. floyd and his minions would grab anything that suits their agenda. what happens to "if you got nothing to hide blah blah.." you people have been trumpeting for years?
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here's how it works with real journalists. They get a lead, they investigate, they gather evidence, and the. They present it. What Montoya did was that he heard a rumor, he then spread the rumor and is now asking the party that he is spreading the rumor about to provide proof of their innocence. That's basically what Donald Trump did to Obama in regards to his birthed claim.
     
  10. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    Ok then, provide the link to the article where Montoya spread this completely unverified rumor.
    I've not seen it. I've only seen a link to a GBP cease and desist letter that recognizes he is investigating this rumor, then accuses him of making false claims. But I've still not seen an actual article in which Montoya accuses GBP of anything.
     
  11. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    B/c if you actually believe that a journalist snooping around and asking questions regarding a rumor is the same as making false claims, then you'd be more suited to live in a totalitarian society.
     
  12. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    doesnt gabe admit in his letter to gbp he wrote something?
     
  13. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    I believe he says pretty plainly "your letter is inaccurate. I've made no accusations towards GBP." or something to that extent.
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A written article is the only way a rumor can be spread? :huh
     
  15. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    maxboxing is pretty crappy. montoya might get his ass tore up on this one. haha