Has Mayweather Made Technical Improvements Against Southpaws?

These things are interlinked; You can see how in the Gif's that Mayweather slips to the Rear-Hand. Normally this is bad (which another reason you keep your foot on the outside of theirs); but in the case of a converted Southpaw his Rear-Hand is the weaker of the two hands.. This means Floyd can circle inside instead of outside.. without fear of being hit.

If he circled to the left (outside Ortiz's foot).. he could run into Ortiz's Lead-Hand.. which does have a bit of pop on it. So.. I wouldn't say it was a negative.

 

Hard one to judge really. Ortiz isn't really an out and out southpaw (being right handed), and doesn't really take advantage of his stance in that sense.

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From the gifs, the straight right to the body whilst getting off on an angle worked a treat, he found his range much quicker. You can maybe compare it to the straight right he tried to land on Judah in the early rounds when he was off balance, Judah caught him off balance and put him down. This time he was a lot more balanced, and positioned his feet so that he could remain balanced once the shot had landed. Also putting him in a position to attack again, or prepare for whatever Ortiz was throwing.

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In the above, he uses Ortiz's jab to time his own right hand. Worked very well, and landed it regularly in round 3 and 4. As soon as he felt the punch, takes a small step to gain the foot positioning, in turn shortening the distance to land the straight right. This worked well against Ortiz, but again, Ortiz doesn't use the stance to it's full effect. I wouldn't suggest Mayweather use this trigger against Pacquiao, Pacquiao comes with the double jab-backhand regularly...Mayweather could get caught with this. He could maybe use it to time the first jab, use his feet to drive out and make Pacquiao miss/reach with the following right and left, then plant the right hand down the middle. But I don't think he would plant his feet to time a Pacquiao jab like he does in the above.

 

Good post but all of Manny's weight gets distributed on his lead foot which limits his movement to mostly backwards and is why he becomes off balanced often. I don't get where you've seen Manny throw a double jab as well recently? I've not seen Manny throw double right jabs as of late. He mostly comes in with a right hook lead then throws the left for the most part or a flurry. Old school Manny use to throw the double jab a la jab, jab straight but he doesn't do that anymore. If Floyd uses his new technique of sing his elbow to deflect Manny's **** poor jab or right hook it will definetly be a long night for Manny.

 

Manny threw plenty of 1-1-2's against Marquez, he just didn't have the angle to pull it off. Ortiz is static and aiming off target, but in the early rounds, despite Floyd pressuring, a weak double jab followed by a straight left nailed Mayweather hard. If Floyd leans back and allows Manny to advance with his foot on the outside, he could get hit hard.

 

Great insights guys. Feeling a bit too lazy to breakdown his peformances against some southpaws but these vids are class. Bogo & SJS Im hoping May/Pacq happens so we can discuss strategies I look forward to it. Still we're gonna have fun after June 9th.


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what do you think of Juan and Tijuana still being able to clock emmanuel even when their lead foots were on the inside of emmanuel's?

 

Like Bogo said, Pacquiao still throws plenty of double jab left hands, whether he lands them (overreaching, being made to miss against Marquez) is another story.

I'm surprised you didn't notice him reverting back to his old school style once Marquez kept making him miss/frustrating him. The double jab back hand is and will always be his bread and butter combination.

 

jab jab left is the southpaw equivalent of the common "1-2"

 

All fighters revert to type when their new stratergy doesn't work. If Mayweather takes away Pacquaio's more conventional talents, then Pac will revert to being left hand reliant, which means he will get parried and countered all night.

(You're all doing a great job. Can't really join in. Too tired! If you can have this discussion at 6pm UK time then that'd be great...)

 

I'm a southpaw myself. I feel much more comfortable working behind the double jab, rather than a single jab.

 

I always did, whilst moving to my right. You'll see most Southpaws use more than one jab, you feel better set.

 

What would you consider Floyd's "type"? When he was trouble in the Jose fight he primarily used the stick-n-move approach and was still down to fight inside when Unca Roger told him so. Zab had some success too, but Floyd just walked him down and applied pressure.

 

I'd argue he's an exception to the rule. He's so natrual in the ring, so calm that he always manages to process what's going on, rather than reverting to instinct. You could argue, that his instinct is to think.

Don't know if you'd agree with that?

 

I wouldn't say he reverts to type in any particular way. When a boxer has some sustained success against him, I'd say he focuses a little more on defense, and comes back with arm punches whilst he thinks what he can do next. Which is why you can argue he can sometimes go in to a defensive shell (DLH) for periods of rounds.

However, his ego will not allow him to stay in this state for too long, and usually comes back the next round to make big statements and demoralise his opponents. Castillo and DLH are the only opponents I can remember who have made him do this for long periods of the bout.

 

A key point is that even when Mayweather is in full defensive mode, he's analysing his opponents rythm, calculating what to do next.