Instances where a fighter with a longer reach and a really good jab is outjabbed?

Bruno-Lewis. Both had long reaches for their height (Bruno 82" at 6"3, Lewis 84" at 6"5) and Bruno did a very good job of outjabbing Lewis and keeping him off balance almost all night.

It's all the more unusual in that Lewis was considerably faster than Bruno, more slick/natural in his movement and a better thinker in the ring. What made the difference was technique and power: Bruno's jab was well-thrown, crisp and so powerful that Lewis was entirely thrown off his game everytime Bruno landed. Bruno also had the advantage that he was more comfortable going forward than Lewis was going backwards and for once he had really good balance-leverage in a world title fight.

Call me crazy, but this fight made me think that Bruno would cause some other great boxers who hated good jabs and liked to move backwards a LOT of trouble. Even Ali and Holmes would find Bruno a difficult opponent for a fair few rounds until their superior stamina and class told.

Heh heh heh heh heh...

 

As a kid with short arms, got an invaluable tip from Sugar Ray Robinson, watching me spar, getting speared 'n jack-hammered by a fighter with a longer reach.

What he showed me was: instead of shuffling forward pistoning jabs 'n coming out second best (bloodied) against a guy with a longer reach, to bend my forward knee and throw up jabs, without turning my fist over. It gave me more extension.

And, best of all, it WORKED, in sparring 'n in bouts. Loved the look on string beans who couldn't figure out how this fireplug was out-jabbing them.





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sorry missed that the first time.

you got some great stuff. that stuff about why he kept he hand lowered that you mentioned here was very interesting.

did ya get anything else that he taught you?

 

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Well, not exactly against Park I :yep

 

This comes to mind. It might not make a guy a home-run hitter, but it might maximize his power. (No other boxer or trainer I was around {even years later} ever recommended this; and like extending a jab, it WORKED.

I fought orthodox, left hand forward. He told me to stand like a southpaw, power hand in front to jab. He said to hook the heavy bag hard to the head 'n body, which was MUCH easier...'n I could fluidly double and triple hooks to the head 'n body, which I couldn't do from an orthodox stance.

Most important, I could see that I could punch more compact and get maximum power 'n forget about drawing-board hooks 'n the need to turn-over my fist...'n just adapt it to an orthodox stance; and whenever I wasn't sure, go back to southpaw on the heavy bag 'n note what I was doing.

Hope it's clear 'n works for you.

 

Hope this answers your question, Mc. Sugar never threw a conventional hook (the picture hook); it was always a hooker/cut, with his left low.

 

John Conteh didn't have the longest reach. Great jab though.

 

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t-rex arms Conteh vs Schmidtke,Finnegan, Lopez and Saad.PLus a lot of the heavyweight\cruiser sized guys he was fighting early, not necessarily good heavyweights overall but like most of the heavy journeymen and fringe contenders of that era they would tend to have a very good educated jab at least.

Alberto Davila vs a lot of fighters as well, though one standout performance doesn't quite come to mind.Maybe the first Duarte fight, but it's been a while.

T-rex arms Sibson vs Kaylor

Buchanan vs Laguna? i'd need to watch them again closely to see who really got the better of the jabbing overall.

Benitez vs Cervantes? Not too sure if Wilfred had a shorter reach though.

 

outjabbed him and won the fight