Instances where a fighter with a longer reach and a really good jab is outjabbed?

Watch Pep in his prime tattoo bean poles, leaving 'em standing on the pier waitin' for the ships ta come in.

 

Mosley vs DLH 1?

Pea vs Mayweather?

 

Randolph-Cardona. Leo reportedly obtained extensive advice from Ali on the execution of his jab, and severely wobbled Ricardo with one late in their bout. It was just a 14 foot ring in Seattle, but when they boxed off in what little center there was, the shorter Randolph had all the better of it over Cardona.

Coming into this one, Ricardo had won half a dozen consecutive title bouts on the strength of his jab, each of his five successful defenses over the championship distance. It was a remarkable performance by Leo (who climbed off the deck early), and his jab was the key. Cardona had three inches in height, and nine inches in reach for Randolph to overcome, yet Leo had gaping five and six point leads on the cards entering the 15th round despite getting floored. He looked to be on the brink of one hell of a career, but it proved to be his final victory in his penultimate bout.

 

Many thanks JG. very informative. I never heard the term "drawing board hooks" I assume its them wide "sweeping" hooks which is less correct than the inside, compact hooks. I assume but correct me if im wrong.

Another thing: I once heard a story that Sugar Ray Robinson was actually a converted southpaw. Never had it verified but perhaps this was one of his own things that he picked up.

 

That was impressive. He also was messing up Tillis as well..making him miss and hitting him back with his own.

 

A drawing-board hook is Text Book; the way Nacho Beristain stamps all his fighters, very compact 'n turnin' over the fist.

Sugar never mentioned to me that he was a converted southpaw, but I've read that, b

 

Probably not the best example because of the nature of the fight, but Whitaker vs. DLH is an obvious one.

DLH was more intent on trying to take Whitaker's head off with hooks and flurries than matching jabs though.

Either way, he got outjabbed pretty convincingly despite a significant height and reach advantage.

I think the best example I can think of is Jim Watt vs. Ken Buchanan. Jim really did a number on Ken there. Never seen a jab land so flush repeatedly...

That said, I don't think Ken had that pronounced a reach or height advantage....

 

See I got it like "drawing" as if to draw it back like a swing rather than a punch with technique. atsch SO by avoiding drawing board hooks you mean that you weren't thinking so hard about it and it just came naturally to throw those double and triple hooks...then you just apply it to your normal stance? I see.

I noticed Ray punching with that vertical fist in fights JG, he didn't always turn it. It'd be interesting to know if he was a converted southpaw though.

 

Another interesting one to think about is Billy Graham vs. Kid Gavilan III.

I thought Graham might have edged the battle of the jabs in that one... Will have to give it another view though to make sure.

 

Yeah, Johnson had an impressive wingspan for being only like 5'10". His listed wingspan is an inch more than Charles, but pure reach was probably more with them long arms. I do recall Johnson still outjabbing Archie Moore who had longer arms.

Next to Joe Louis:

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What part of the puzzle are you missing, Mc?

 

Eubank out-jabbing Malinga

 

In Bowe-Holyfield II Holyfield managed to completely neutralize Bowe's jab with his own.

 

Hate to be a bore, but this was the first one that sprung to mind as well. It just shows that the jab, no matter the physical stature of the fighter, is a crucial ingredient in setting up one's offence.
The Tucker fight is a great example of how a guy with short arms can outjab a much taller man.

Tyson became twice the fighter he was when he developed that jab.