The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I mean I thought the Floyd fans were all for it, Obviously we know the truth, its not about cleaning up the sport, its about them clinging to Floyds balls.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch You have no ****in clue what ANYONE really posts. You just glance over, and assume what they say, or just think "They's Hatin!!" :patsch
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I don't care which one they use. I like USADA more because they are the authority and have more experience bu VADA is fine as well. As long as a boxer is willing to do more than the standard commission testing I'm all for it.
     
  4. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, provide a link thats not gossip from Conte or Montoya stating they will only test for over 4:1. I've provided one stating that is false and I'm guessing it's more recent than anything you'll find if you find anything.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The floyd fanboys constantly raise the bar on the level of stupidity this board reaches.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

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  7. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I havent seen people say dont mess with VADA most people are saying "take the damn test" besides *******s and floyd haters who some how think USADA is up to something:deal
     
  8. meh...

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    When the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) announced that Light Welterweight boxing champion Lamont Peterson had tested positive for the anabolic steroid testosterone, it was a major victory for the new anti-doping organization. VADA has championed the use of a specific type of anti-doping screening test over the more commonly used testosterone:epitestosterone (T:E) ratio test. Peterson would have likely avoided detection if his urine had been screened only using the T:E ratio test.
    VADA has chosen to use carbon isotope ratio (CIR) to screen 100% of the urine samples collected by its agents. CIR testing examines the atomic composition of urinary testosterone to determine if it was naturally-produced by the body or introduced exogenously through some method of testosterone doping. Most of the carbon atoms present in testosterone have an atomic weight of 12. The atomic composition of natural testosterone differs from that of pharmaceutical testosterone in that it has a slightly greater ratio of carbon atoms with an atomic weight of 13.
    Victor Conte, former BALCO kingpin and current anti-doping advocate, has been one of the most vocal supporters of VADA. He has frequently cited the superiority of the CIR test over the T:E ratio test. The T:E ratio is the standard anti-doping screen for testosterone use utilized by most anti-doping agencies such as the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). Conte has encouraged all anti-doping agencies to abandon the flawed T:E ratio test in favor of the CIR test.
    The suggestion that VADA may be ahead of other anti-doping agencies has put USADA on the defensive. After all, USADA and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) have marketed their protocols as the leading world standard in the world of anti-doping. It can’t allow people like Victor Conte to claim that other ant-doping agencies have superior procedures for catching dopers.
    The superiority of VADA’s use of CIR to screen 100% of urine samples versus USADA’s use of CIR to screen only a small minority of urine samples seems obvious. USADA has primarily used CIR to analyze samples only after they failed the initial T:E ratio screen of 4:1.
    Rather than applaud VADA of their ubiquitous use of the CIR screen, USADA disingenuously and misleadingly suggested that it is still the undisputed king of steroid testing. They issued a “smoke and mirrors” statement that disputed assertions made by Conte but failed to address the crux of the argument in favor of universal CIR testing.
    “CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA’s jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs
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    “CIR has been used by anti-doping organizations internationally since the early 2000s and there have been many athletes sanctioned by USADA and other national anti-doping organizations around the world as the result of CIR testing. CIR is an important tool in our toolbox and we use it
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    USADA vaguely suggested that CIR testing was not only done in cases of T:E ratios exceeding 4:1. But it did not clarify exactly when it would use CIR testing. USADA avoided full disclosure of its CIR testing procedures and only suggested it was used “strategically and effectively.”
    “Strategically and effectively” certainly sounds like a lot less than 100%. USADA needs to make a more persuasive case for how its steroid testing (for testosterone) is more effective than VADA’s use of 100% CIR testing. Or applaud those organizations that are trying to improve anti-doping procedures.

    VADA clearly states it does CIR for 100% of cases and their samples, USADA does it "strategically and effectively". More info and specific testing numbers to come, in due course, but I need to eat, i'm starving. :hi: What testing has USADA done in pro boxing, 3 tests, ordered by whom? Money
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    So Conte is affiliated with VADA and one of his fighters test dirty but that's not room for concern??? Log off man.:lol::rofl:lol::patsch
     
  10. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the context of the subject at hand, this is hilarious.

    Just saying. Carry on.
     
  11. PrinceN

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    where that say they dont use i 90 percent of the time? where is the link?:deal:hi::hi::hi:
     
  12. Hermit

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    Put PimpC on suicide watch. :rofl
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    :happy:happy:happy:happy
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They don't give a **** about the integrity of the sport. They support Mayweather saying it, because it boosted his public opinion and made people think Pacquiao was a cheat, and when the tables are turned, they are suddenly against people investigating drugs.

    It's bull****. There has been so much hypocrisy from that group of fans in the past few days.
     
  15. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    really explain this?
     
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