If Duran Fought By Today's Standards

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  1. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy would be getting **** on by this internet,media age.. He wins once to Sugar Ray then loses to him,Hagler, Hearns, Benitez,losing most of the big name fights, and then quits a rematch out of frustration because Sugar ray is toying with him..

    Fighters that are top guys but lose to the elites,are usually delegated as bums,is it a "era" bias.. People say he fought every one,well so did fighters of this era and they don't get the same accolades.. Yes he is a great fighter but why does he get a pass?
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Not really I don't think he'd get **** on when he's facing guys he's not even supposed to be fighting. A slightly past his prime lightweight upsetting a younger,bigger, faster undefeated opponent in his prime pretty much like if Pacman fought and beat Floyd at 147. Afterwards, Pacman moves up 160 and thrashes Sergio Martinez's face and gives a great account of himself in a losing effort losing in a competitive fight. Then Pacman get's ko'd at 154 by IDK maybe a Lara or Canelo, and finally moves back up to 160 again beats GGG to win a championship belt at 160 like Duran did over Barkley. No, Martinez is not Hagler, Floyd is not Leonard, Lara or Canelo are certainlyNOT in Hearns league, and GGG tho potentially may become great one day hasn't achieved a career defining fight that would make him an immortal like Barkley has become by shocking the world. So YES Duran is a great fighter and that is why he gets a pass and this is without mentioning his reign of terror during his lightweight years.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I get what you're saying, but, because he'd likely beat the **** out of anyone in and around his division, I doubt he'd even give the internet-critics a decent excuse to bash him. He'd be displaying elite fighting ability and an attitude where he wouldn't even think about avoiding the best challenges. As long as you have those two things, the real boxing fans will find it hard to not like you.
     
  4. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Duran's career didn't begin in 1980. He already had 72 fights under his belt and an ATG legacy carved out as a lightweight with impressive wins in several divisions. If you don't know fighters such as Ernesto Marcel, Esteban DeJesus, Ken Buchanon, Carlos Palomino, Edwin Viruet and haven't seen 70s Duran, then it'll be difficult to appreciate him as a fighter.

    He had twice the mileage and was fighting 12-25 lbs above his best weight against ATGs at their absolute peaks.
     
  5. theISSUE_1990

    theISSUE_1990 New Member Full Member

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    I bet he would also get criticized bad. Nowadays when fighters get knocked out he is immediately labelled as a fighter with GLASS JAW. Wladimir Klitchko still has the label on him considering that he has not been down in 7 years now. Victor Ortiz once quit, and until now he is labelled as a quitter. Goes to show you that you cannot please all of the people.

    If Duran would fight today, he will definitely have a hard time on fighting guys like Cotto, Lara, and Martinez. I have Duran at top 6 on my all time great but I think he will also have trouble with Pacquioa and Mayweather.
     
  6. ianwigley

    ianwigley Guest

    He would have trouble with Pac, May, Cotto Lara and Martinez. Martinez would have been too big.

    Aside from that Noob - **** off.
     
  7. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    He doesn't get a pass, he's remembered by many for his "no mas."

    :-(
     
  8. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    He doesn't get a pass for the 2nd Leonard fight.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    People soon forgot that with his win over Barkley !
     
  10. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    My pops -a casuan fan- gives him a pass. He says that Leonard clowned around the ring too much and didn't feel like fighting:lol:
     
  11. theISSUE_1990

    theISSUE_1990 New Member Full Member

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    A warm welcome from the old member. Gives me idea of what to expect here. I maybe new to ESB but I have been a fan of boxing for years now. I would like to know how you break down the fight. All of the boxers mentioned against Duran. :cool:
     
  12. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fanboys will eat up him for breakfast. especially if he is around pac's weight class.
     
  13. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When Duran was 35

    1986-06-23 159 Robbie Sims 159½ 26-4-1
    Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L SD 10 10
    referee: Mills Lane | judge: Bill Graham 92-97 | judge: Jerry Roth 94-95 | judge: Art Lurie 96-94

    1986-04-18 161¾ Jorge Suero 162 0-1-0
    Gimnasio Nuevo Panama, Panama City, Panama W KO 2 10
    time: 1:45 | referee: Carlos Berrocal | judge: Rodolfo Maldonado | judge: Arturo Sánchez

    1986-01-31 163 Manuel Zambrano 1-6-0
    Gimnasio Nuevo Panama, Panama City, Panama W KO 2 10
    . If Floyd fought guys with those record, he will get so much hate.
     
  14. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    You conveniently forgot that 72-1 record he compiled & his domination of the LW division for nearly 7 years before he even fought Leonard for the first fight.

    haha at least he stepped up & fought the best of his era at higher weight classes unlike Floyd who waited until Mosley was 38 years old.

    You think Floyd would fight Leonard or Hearns?

    No way, he will find some reason on why he doesn't need to.

    This is the guy who had a phony retirement & wouldn't even fight Margarito.

    Floyd is the "greatest" only according to himself & delusional *****'s.
     
  15. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn good post!!! :good

    Don't forget Escalera!