Has Ward the courage to go fight Froch in England?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by aliviu_emilian, May 30, 2012.


  1. Jaber

    Jaber Guest

    he will be viewed as Wardke cause unlike his mentor from Germany Ward has some talent and skill.he is a improved version of Ottke,he's a black irish Ottke :deal
     
  2. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Showtime ****ed themselves by not taking a better fight Ward vs Dawson...

    So **** on Showtime for waiting on Bute who went from suga to ****...


    Dan Goosen went to bat for his fighter and secured a great deal.. Its about getting the best deal for your fighter.. thats Boxing business.. at the end of the day the fighter has to perform.. AKA Win.. thats what Ward has been able to do with Goosen handling the Promotion...
     
  3. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    So just because Goosen was able to sort Ward the best deal with his mates at showtime it makes it fair?:rofl

    Personally, the mechanics behind what happened are obvious, doesn't make it any less of a unfair situation.

    Maybe froch and certainly kessler should have refused to travel whilst they were champs. In kesslers case, being the champ and going to Oakland to fight a fighter ranked as ward was should never have happened. Problem is if they adopted this approach there would never have been any tournament.
     
  4. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude come on now.. Really... Promoters do their thing... thats what they get paid to do.. Goosen has a P4P Champ in his camp.. and he has been there since the beginning.. so he help build the Ward Brand..

    Now lets look at Mick Hennessey.. He was not able to build the Froch Brand and got his ass canned.. He could not get the exposure for Froch on Sky like Froch wanted.. The new guy Froch has has the connections to make things happen.. and has put Froch in a favorable position... So lets not hate on what the Promoter does, Fair or not...

    Promoters try to make the best deal for their fighters.. Ward didn't look at the fight schedual Cry and say oh no im not going over seas to fight.. Dan I must prove myself to fans who don't even know me..

    Ward look at the sched, fought the fights and Won..

    If the fight sched had Ward fighting away, I bet all my money that he would have fought the fights and still Won..
     
  5. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    I am not in argument with anything you say to be fair. Much of it being just how it is.. dissapointing

    However, if you believe that ward wasn't bothered about travelling then i suggest you cannot be so sure. i also, agree that ward couldn't give a **** about proving a few hardcore fans wrong.

    I would have thought that being a tournament that the promoters would be told to go **** themselves when they tried to get the "best deal" Especially one that involved not fighting away from home when every other fighter had to.

    For me it is about agendas and Ward and his team certainly had one in relation to returning the favour and fighting an away leg.

    It was and is inevitable that ward fans would ok the situation using the fact that he was always going to win the tournie. Even if the best fighter didn't have to take the risks that the other did for whatever the reason when imo the reason doesn't matter.
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Would all this supposed travelling make Andre Ward watchable? He is boring as hell.
     
  7. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    :lol: not really.. imo watchable he isn't.

    Just imagine what folk would think, especially those defending the ward situation, if froch or kessler insisted on the home advantage throughout the S6.

    Firstly i doubt very much they would have got away with it and would have been rightly ridiculed for doing so.

    Ward got away with it and it went under the radar unlike it would have for any of the other fighters.
     
  8. Bulletproof

    Bulletproof Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is the reason for this thread. Andre beat three European fighters and now those fans are butt hurt. If Ward lost along the way, especially to Froch, this thread wouldn't exist.
     
  9. SleazeNation

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    Why are you replying to your own post?

    Fighters can win at home, and lose to the same opponent away. Because away from home winning is a lot harder.

    The three European fighters had to go to Ward, if he fights Abraham in Germany, or Froch in England or Kessler in Denmark he will be giving away the same advantage they already gave him. But he won't do that, he'll stay at home like he has his whole career. Because it's an advantage that he likes.
     
  10. D Berns

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    so ward can get robbed like dirrell?

    If i was a champion at smw I would go to nottingham to fight froch **** that.

    Id fight some were in america or a neutral place like canada or some ****.
     
  11. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Equally it could be said that if ward had submitted to the same rules as all the others we wouldn't have this thread..

    For the record not all of us are as butt hurt as you seem to think:smooch
     
  12. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why can't Ward behave like someone who believes in his own abilities?

    Kessler was champ and still met Ward abroad. Froch was champ and still met Kessler abroad.

    Ward is champ and only wants to stay at home.
     
  13. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    The concept is known as "Come to Pappa". :yep
     
  14. D Berns

    D Berns Well-Known Member Full Member

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    true.

    dirrel believed in his abilities.

    didnt he get robbed???
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward wouldnt fight Froch, with a tiny cut by his eye, which he got months earlier, but now fought Froch with a broken hand.
    Sounds a bit odd