The Game Plan to beat Mayweather ?

Mayweather outjabbed Cotto. I think guys who attack at angles when Mayweather is flat footed will give him problems, but that's only against this older less mobile Floyd.

 

All I ever hear is game plan this, game plan that. There is no game plan, only person who can beat floyd is himself.

 

In this era?
Prison...Age...Decline...Get him to sign. Unless you want him to move up in weight.


Overall...some good boxers All Time would give him a tough fight, if not beat him even at his best {130-140). At WW, there is more of a list.

 

He would have moved and pot-shot Margarito. Back then he still had his legs, speed, and Stamina, and he was all about the Pot-shot.

 

In what division?

 

Depends what fighter you want to give me.

Some can't, others would have to be perfect.

 

I think the Jab is a good start...especially if you are not super quick. Good timing and the shortest distance to your target increases the likelihood of finding your mark.

I think Miguel had the right idea. He used a variety of different strategies that caused Floyd a little trouble adapting like he normally does in little time against most other opponents.

Boxing and brawling...switching up the tactics but a heavy emphasis on intelligent applied pressure is key. The hard part will be to know when to fall back and box because the "success" utilizing pressure is very addictive..... but Floyd can adapt even if he is under a lot of pressure and taking some damage. If he catches you "over committing" or becoming predictable he'll make you pay.

So for someone to beat Floyd it helps to have all the physical qualities that can match his...like the speed, reflexes and talent....but since Floyd is so good in terms of his skills and technical ability there has to be the right game plan for the particular fighter who is going in on Floyd.

Cotto thus far had the most effective game plan outside of DLH.

 

Fight him while he is injured
Be a bigger and a better boxer than he

 

Use the jab to occupy Mayweather. It can't be a single jab, that's too simple. Double and tripple the jab, and move to the side, (Alternate what side. Do not settle into a pattern.) Dip, weave and throw the jab to the body occasionally. It's not designed to do damage, you need to occupy his thought process.

Bogatozo will go into foot placement if and when he gets here, he's better qualified than I am.

FEINT. Fast fighters fall for feints, same as any other. It's a natrual human re-action. The feint gains you a split second, which is a long time in a Boxing ring. You need to have your body in sync. Feint and change your position, change the dynamic of the exchange. I'm not going to sit and talk about what kind of punch to throw, that's different for each fighter. What's important is that you take control, take the oppertunity to change the dynamic of the exchange.

^^^ Only a starter.

 

The thing with floyd is he has the skill and boxing brain to adjust to any game plan that opponent's come in with. Easy to say go to the body and feint but got to think what will floyd be doing, He's not going to stand still and it only takes him to get caught 2/3 times in the body to not make the mistake of leaving it open again.

 

To beat Mayweather, you have to hit him.

Maybe that sounds obvious, but there's a serious point in there. The worst thing a fighter can do is throw punches at a target that isn't there. Missing leaves you open to counters, it tires you out, makes the other guy look impressive for the judges and makes you frustrated and yet when fighters target Mayweather's head and specific parts of his body, they are going to miss constantly. In order to change that, they should change their target because if they do that, Mayweather can be broken down. If I was a fighter, when Mayweather is doing his shoulder roll...

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His left should is easy to hit. You aren't going to hit his head clean, so why not target his shoulder?

Do it in the old way. If you can't get the chin or the floating rib, that's fine, but target things you can hit. Sandy Saddler targeted his opponents hips, Marciano aimed punches at their shoulders. They knew they couldn't always get their favoured target but instead of throwing wasted punches, they were clever and aimed their attack at body parts which were hard to hit. Hit Mayweather's hips and his movement will become slower. Hit his shoulder and he'll lose power off his left hand and he'll think twice about using his shoulder to defend his chin, which will leave him open from other angles.

Against a defensive fighter, everything has to count. Swinging and missing serves no purpose at all. If you can't get the chin or the body, go for something you can hit. You may not get a sensational knockout or a devastating body punch in, but you are more likely to break that fighter down when the fight progresses into the late rounds.

 

He hides behind his shoulder. Stop aiming for his jaw, and go for the top of his head.

 

I saw no evidence of this. (I'm not even going to bother consulting Compubox, as it's rubbish.)

I do remember Floyd landing nice jabs to the body. (Something he also used well against Castillo.) Cotto was clearly landing the better jabs, though. Mayweather's success came from the uppercut and a looping right hook.

 

True people do overplay the Castillo fight. Mayweather adapted to pressure.

A person who has the in and out ambush style can beat a counterpuncher/pure boxer.

For example, Roy jones beating James toney. In james toneys prime he would counter the **** outta anybody. when roy jones fought him he would hit him and move to a position where toney wouldnt be able to counter. and was very unpredictable whenever he would attack.


Pascal victory over dawson. Dawson has good counterpunching ability and is a pure boxer. when he fought pascal pascal would circle dawson and jump in every once in a while throwing power shots and he would leap out of range for dawson to counter and thats how pascal won the fight.

 

He didnt beat him in their first fight and acutally his gameplan wasnt that effective.

Hear me out.

He had a 10 lb weight advantage in which he used and was efffective with roughing Floyd up and landed some good body shots on Floyd, but ...

He also held alot, missed a lot, got hit a lot, and similiar to the Cotto fight, though he landed shots he also missed a lot as well. Add to this that whenever he threw punches, rather they landed or not, the crowd reacted as if they all landed, when clearly they didn't.

The scorecards were definitely too wide, but all in all Casitllo made Floyd earn his buck and it was a relatively close fight, but you dont give the first 5 rds away to Floyd and then expect to win the last 7.

And to settle the score 7 rds to 5 rds for Floyd.