Question for you expert boxing fans

Pads work on technique, form, punching precision and stamina. How is throwing one punch or two at a time going to help?

The pads is primarily an offensive excercise with a target that isn't moving too much. It's a way for fighters to push themselves physically and get their bodies used to throwing certain combinations, muscle memory.

Often, it doesn't translate to their in ring style. Winky Wright, boxes the heavy bag just like he does an opponent.

 

well Im no expert but I could guess that there are 3 major factors

1- when most fighters are throwing combinations they leave themselves open. so they have to have blistering speed to do it without risk COMBINED with blistering footwork. which is rare.

2- the level of opposition has to be somewhat slower also with poor reflexes or poor footwork (in comparison)

2- the range has to be right and that is usually down to the 2 fithers. If one of them wants it at distance the other has to play into that. vice versa. Again that is rare too.

Again i am no expert. but if you look at Amir Khan for example - he can throw comibinations - but only in straight lines. so anyon who side steps can hurt him.

Manny seems to be able to throw combos at angles which makes him more dangerous

Now for example of a non world class boxer - look at novice Jamie Kavanagh - he throws 6 punch combos, so did John Duddy, but neither have the speed to avoid the counters so they both get caught.

Paul Williams was a great combination puncher but he paid for it when he met people who could counter with great foot work.
Ironically, Martinez, who has great footwork didnt counter Pwilliams in the 2nd fight. Actually what happened was he just beat him to the punch. so that was probably a bad example.

Gatti was another. I think Angulo was too. Rigondeaux is dangerous cause he throws his combos with devasting speed, but again, only when he wants to.

 

...'cause the heavy bag doesn't hit back, j

 

Winky had alot of rust its much different when your in the gym sparrin and hitting the mitts than when your under the lights and getting hit back with smaller gloves etc..

Sometimes you work on a game plan staying in the pocket catch and counter only to show up on fight night they have adjusted their game leaving you to have to re adjust.

is a boxing thing I dont expect many to understand

 

I was waiting on a response from you JG ..I remember in the classic forum you had brought up how the old timers would never hit the mitts ..Its all about flash on the mitts correct ?

 

1) The bag doesn't hit back is as legitimate a response as any.

2) They do it also for conditioning. To build up conditioning, muscle memory, coordination, sharpness, etc. However that doesn't mean they NEED to expend that energy foolishly in an actual fight.

3) Hitting the mitts and bag is not just about flash. What you see in videos and promos is just what camps allow/want you to see. Remember, training is these guy's 9-5, so we only see a fraction of what they go through for media purposes.

4) You see Floyd doing his mitwork, but that doesn't mean it's smart to throw arm punches like that in an actual fight. That mitwork isn't meant to be an indication of how he will throw in the ring. It's more conditioning, muscle memory and sharpness.

5) Fighters also contend with feeling pain when they're hit. Trust me, Floyd feels soreness in his body when he's hit on his arms, shoulders, etc during his shoulder roll. Plus you have to adjust for your opponent's tactics and you don't always want to go in the ring and throw that same 4 punch combo at the same speed and order that you did in the gym.

6) As far as combinations are concerned, guys throw them, but it just causes too much risk. Especially now days where one loss or even a knockdown can drop your stock to the overrated or "done" category. So I think fighters fight safer and are managed a bit safer these days. I think fighters are seeing more of the business side of the sport vs the "I need to make something of myself" side of it. Business means, being brought along slowly, taking less risks and winning with what works, fighting mandatories to keep records in tact and a belt on the waist, etc.

 

Abner Mares, and Marquez also stand strong in the pocket and throw combinations. . .

Abner Mares is the last, true combination puncher of the "brand new" fistic era (post 2010)...

 

you asked for expert advice, on esb? on the general forum, hmm.

 

And SJS, the pleb, but tank, beautiful tank, provided it. . . . No Nuthuggin'!

 

sparring does the job

 

post video!

I think im going to post a video of my boxing regimen on here soon.