Jack Sharkey vs Ingemar Johansson

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. red cobra

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    Vic, this is a tricky one..it's like, which version of either fighter will show up? I see a skittish, "on", prepared Sharkey just being too smart and fast for Ingo, and there would most likely be a unanimous decision for the Boston Gob..if he was on again...and he possibly could have stopped Ingo as well, being "on"..as mercurical and hot/cold as Sharkey could be.
    I also am open to the possibility of Ingo being at his best and catching Sharkey with his "Bingo" if Jack wasn't "on".
    I'm going with what I voted for in the poll, and that's a decision for Sharkey.
     
  3. janitor

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    I would put my m oney on Sharkey, then I would worry a lot in the run up to the fight.
     
  4. mcvey

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    I pick Jack but he doesn't get any of my dough on him.
     
  5. he grant

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    Sharkey , easy ...
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Easy ?
    Sharkey lost to many fighters worse than Ingemar, plus IJ has a good resume at HW... beat a guy like Eddie Machen in the first round, a win against a guy of the level of Patterson.....

    I don´t think that would be easy for anyone......Johansson gets underrated sometimes IMO....
     
  7. red cobra

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    :goodyes, Ingo does get underrated...but i think most that do this mistake the post 1960 Ingo for the svelte bomber that slaughtered Machen and Patterson in their 1st bout. Ingo was never the same again after 1959.
     
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    Johanson of the first Patterson fight would KO Sharkey.

    After winning championship Ingo seemed to lose interest and went in to the ring just to get a pay cheque.
     
  10. bodhi

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    Hm, this is a tricky one indeed. Sharkey at his very best was a very, very good and complete fighter. Better than Ingo. But Ingo was very good himself, not just his right but he could box, punch, wasn´t too stupid in there. What took him to the next level was not so much his right hand but the way he was able to hide it away and then set it up. Sharkey could be stopped and hurt. And Ingo at his best was very good at that. Sharkey should be the fav but I´d go with Ingo in a little upset.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Ingo's resume is pretty thin, imo.
    I've always felt that in a rematch, Machen might have beaten Ingo, that leaves him with one win out of three over Floyd .



    I don't know that I would pick him over the 29 years old George Godfrey that Sharkey beat, and I think Schmeling would ko him .
     
  12. bodhi

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    How does your feeling negate his win over Machen? :blood
     
  13. he grant

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    How? He caught him early with a lucky shot ... if he fought Machen another nine time Machen wins the other nine ... Ingo was a poorly conditioned, severly limited , weak chinned fighter ... a prime Sharkey dices him to pieces and stops him under ten ..
     
  14. mcvey

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    It doesn't ,I just think 1 rd blow outs often flatter the winner. Joey Maxim was kod in 1 rd by Hatchet Man Sheppard, 21 days later Joey boxed his ears off to take 9 of the 10 rds. Machen beat guys I would pick to beat Ingo , and also went lots of rounds with more formidable bangers than one handed Ingo.
    Machen desperatedly tried to get a rematch with Ingo , but never could.
     
  15. bodhi

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    Yeah, and because he was so sh*t he flattened the number one contender and the hw champ to win the title. Seriously, dude, stop beeing so disrespectful to people who managed to achieve more than you ever will. Thanks. :good


    Fair enough. We have their one encounter as a result though and IMO that weighs more than what may possible happen in a rematch. Overall, Machen has the better resume. Nevertheless, Ingo managed to beat him and win the title. Give him his due. ;)