What people don't realize about Sugar Ray Leonard's Greatness is...

Yes, Leonard was an all-time great. But Hagler was better. End of story.

 

Nobody is denying SRL greatness

 

What's not realized?

What? That he only gives quick rematches to guys that he knows are eating themselves out of their mind?

Ray has some pretty sweet PR.

 

Care to elaborate on that one?:think
Pretty sweeping statement,wouldn't you say?

 

:happy Yes, my friendy! Hagler make him a Shibetta to his Adebisi!

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Calzaghe, now that was a fighter. P4P and based on Resume, much better than SRL. He finished with an 0, and for that he is the greatest up their with Marciano as the GOAT.

 

you crazy. not even ****ing close. now Duran and Leonard are pretty interchangeable on the ATG list and I could understand an argument for either but Hagler was much bigger than all the fab 4 and his biggest fights and wins are vs them..... c'mon son

 

yep:hey:hey:hey

 

SRL. The greatest of his generation. Fought like a fool against Duran in the first fight. Took him to school in the second. Out-punched the Hitman. Took years off due to injury, then came back to fight the greatest MW who ever lived at His weight, 160, when SRL in his prime was a WW. If you don't get the ATGreatness of SRL, you really are dumb piece of **** and should probably be watching MMA.

 

He quit cause Ray was running? atsch

 

The fight ended with Leonard up by two rounds by 2 judges, and 1 by another.

That fight was hardly a schooling.

Like a year off due to injury. The rest of it was because of a guy named Hagler.

And he waited until the "greatest MW" was obviously out of his prime to do it.

That's ironic, because a guy that SRL "schooled", that in his prime was a LW, took the "greatest MW" on in his prime, at MW.

That LW didn't wait till Hagler looked beatable. He just took the fight once it was available.

It's something some people should start realizing about SRL.

 

Haters gonna hate. :smoke

 

It's a shame many fans today mostly know Duran for what he was in the 1980s. Guy had 72 fights and a complete career already before any of the Fab 4 business took place, was fighting furthest out of his weight division and caught all of them nearly at their absolute peaks - '82 Benitez, '83 Hagler, '84 Hearns. All at 154 and up. It doesn't get anymore difficult than that. I still consider him a beast of Welterweight based on his performances and wins over Palomino and Leonard.

He gets a lot of clout for Moore and Barkley, but sometimes I wonder what it'd look like if he'd retired 72-1 (56) after the Brawl in Montreal.

 

Had he retired, he would've been worshipped as a boxing God.......he already is, but he wouldn't have as many haters.

SRL fans like to act as if his career was nothing till he fought him, and that he was really nothing since they act as if the first fight between them didn't count because of the bull**** spewed by SRL.

Just to add, he stayed upright against Camacho when he was 45, unlike Leornard.

Infact, some think he won.

 

Indeed.

Very few fighters draw the ire and hate of posters here quite like Duran, and it's really puzzling. You've either got to be ignorant of his lightweight career and complete range of skills or just not a fan of the sport.

The progression he shows throughout the 1970s with the DeJesus trilogy is striking. I wouldn't pick any LW to beat '78 Duran sans possibly Whitaker.

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Here against Carlos Palomino at 147 lbs:

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