Why did Pacquiao duck Mosley?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac had just beaten Dlh and prior to that, fought at 135. Mosley had just destroyed the most avoided man in boxing, who was also a huge ww. No one in their right mind expected Pac to fight Mosley at this point in time. Pac was still untested at ww until he fought Cotto 12 months later. Next question.
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Team Pac wanted to move to 147 after the Hatton win and were targeting Shane. Roach said he would do 143 for Mosley's title he just got by beating Margarito. Shane said fine. Then Roach switched his stance to 140, Shane said let's do it.

    Team Pac took the offer away and waited to see Cotto BARELY get by Clottey, and then challenge him to a "diamond title" bout instead.

    Team Pac just weren't willing to take on that risk. Hell, I was surprised Floyd was.
     
  3. LordJomski

    LordJomski Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its because SSM priced himself out.. He asked for a catch-weight of 143 lbs and 60/40 split.. :deal

    During that time, Manny Pacquioa was the cash cow of boxing.. When SSM won, he asked Pac's camp for 40% split? :patsch Wrong timing for SSM's offer.. :nono He forgot that Pacquioa-Hatton did more than 1.6m PPV.. :deal Was Margarito-Mosley on PPV? No it wasn't.. :nono

    And that's one thing to consider, Mosley out-priced himself.. :deal
     
  4. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So wait...so I guess then we would have to admit that although its OSCAR, a big name and future HOF fighter...he was actually dead at the weight so he wasn't much of a test for Pac at WW ???

    Because it was the glorious credit Pac received with fighting and beating Oscar the way he did that had some saying...hey, why not Mosley next ?

    But yes, Roach letting us in on the "To good" right now shows that he knew where Oscar was and where Shane still was to some degree.

    I can work with that. But we need to keep things in check of what's what.
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dlh was favored and many thought this was a mismatch but i think when we saw Dlh weigh 147 in the ring, he wasn't right physically. Most expected a natural weight advantage of 10-15 lbs. But to answe your question, yes, in hindsight, Dlh wasn't a true test at ww for the reasons mentioned above.
     
  6. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Yeah, he ducked Mosley to fight the guy who beat Mosley, Cotto, and then went on to sweep every round versus Mosley. No fair.
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Keep in mind, you feel that Pacquiao beat Marquez in the 3rd fight, and have to post pictures to prove a point.

    You also had no idea the published RING magazine came out a month late in terms of ratings/results.

    So you fall under either the casual fan, or *******.
     
  8. jd2334

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  9. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shane was the Legit Challenge after he DESTROYED the Man that DESTROYED Cotto (who barely beat Shane).


    Fought Cotto AFTER he was Destroyed by Margarito.
    Fought Margarito AFTER he was destroyed by Shane.
    Fought Shane after he was proven to be no good anymore against Floyd.
    Fought Hatton AFTER he was knocked out by Floyd.
    It also took a while to get that JMM fight done and it bit him in the ass.

    See the pattern?


    Not really saying Pac is doing this on purpose because I do think it is more Roach/Arum even though the fighter has to speak up.



    but its great to see him back on track and fighting Bradley. :good
    Although he isn't much of a WW considering he is a jrWW. But hey...
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    So you're saying Cotto was LESS dangerous than Mosley at the time. I agree.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    This outta make some asses bleed. Nice. :good
     
  12. LordJomski

    LordJomski Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Pacquioa defeated Marquez by a thin Margin and that makes me a *******? :huh I have explained why I came up with the conclusion that Pacquioa won using the standard rules of boxing, then I am a *******.. :huh

    Oh great, because I'm not the type of person to buy Ring Magazine Issues that also makes me a *******.. :huh

    And once I am posting facts, I really am a *******! :patsch

    Alright, you really know your ****! :clap::clap::clap:
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yes, Yes, and Yes.

    and thank you, sir.
     
  14. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Roach didn't want the Mosley fight. I don't think Pac was afraid of him.
     
  15. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Yeah, Bradley doesn't have too much history at WW, but neither did Hatton. Do we really want to go through the annals of boxing history and analyze who was destroyed by so and so before they fought so and so? Really now, Ali's wins versus Fraizer wouldn't mean ****, right? That's merely one example.

    You can say what you want about Margarito, and I'll be right there with you saying it. He's a criminal, but to take that kind of beating for twelve rounds you have to be in superior shape. Same goes for Cotto. If you've ever laced them up you understand quite clearly what I'm referring to. Mosley had already been beaten quite badly by Forrest twice. Winky handled Mosley as well before Floyd got to him. Oscar had been through the grinder before Floyd fought him. And that happens to be one of Floyd's best wins, the best win according to Floyd himself. See, we can go through every boxer's record like this and see who they were beaten by before another guy beat them. It's futile and not much of an argument. See the pattern?