Frank Mir was granted exemption for testosterone into Junior dos Santos bout

UFC fights are obviously harder, look at Brock. He only managed 7. If Fedor ever fought UFC all his life he's be done after 3

He's no Roy Nelson

 

Unless your Endocrine system was completely ****ed how is it possible to have almost 'zero testosterone'? You're Testes produce the hormone and this decreases with age. In women this may be possible because of the Menopause. But in men i can't see 'how' your test hormones could be that low unless you had a serious disease of the Endocrine system, some type of hormonal ailment or abused steroids for a significant period of time. Abnormally low ratios would mean you were on deaths door. You MUST have male hormones in your body simply to live. Any long term synthetic abuse, and i'm talking at least 6 years minimum would mean permanent damage to your Testes and Endocrine system.
And Doctors just want to get you normal again? Really bro?

 

To me it seems like a bit of a grey area. I would like to take the time to do some proper research, because it's probably not sensible to trust second hand information on a boxing forum.

Could there be an advantage? I am aware that restoring testosterone levels to 'normal' can help cure some non-athletic symptoms of low T, but I would not be at all surprised if there were some positive changes that are of a benefit in an athletic sense (and to be honest, I expect that to be the case). If that is true, then I don't think it should be allowed in sport. Everyone has physical/mental/physiological strengths and weaknesses:

• some have better than average reactions, some have worse than average
• some have better than average chins, some have worse, and
• if higher T levels do confer a physical advantage, then some people have better than average Testosterone levels and some have worse

What is the dividing line between rectifying a health issue and using hormones to improved performance? I don't think it is acceptable that any athlete take a drug that improves a particular attribute up to 'normal' levels. As far as I'm concerned, you compete within the bounds of the physical body that you have, with only training and diet to aid your development. As soon as you start injecting or popping pills to alter your natural hormonal balance, then you are stepping into a dodgy area...

 

Yeah those drugs those UFC fighters take must be bad for their health, afterall isnt that why Brock has that stomach issue, and isnt that why so many of these so called top althetes need hormone therapy?

 

Well that just goes to show how courageous Mir is to fight the best HW in the World despite suffering from the condition of low T. In his prime Mir coulda put up a better fight.

 

The thing is they're not restoring them to 'normal' as they're only required to keep the T/E ratio at or under 6:1 under the NSAC's outdated guidelines. A normal T/E ratio for healthy adult males is only about 1:1 with only a fraction of one percent of pro athletes having a ratio as high as 6:1 according to studies (and I'd be willing to bet that fraction of a percent is roided the **** up).

 

No, there's absolutely no medical evidence to even suggest that steroids are in any way linked to diverticulitis. The mother****er wasn't eating enough fiber... That's all there is to it.

 

I think hormone and steroid abuse is so rampant that a lot of guys have already wrecked their endocrine systems and probably have a problem producing what would be their normal levels without T replacement as well as what has been mentioned above.

T replacement is a bandaid in the big picture.

I see tons of MMA fighters that can definitely benefit from hormone abuse as well. I see guys that struggle doing full back squats at 225 all the time, a lot of Brazilians I see don't even seem to understand how to take advantage of the nervous system, which seems to be a big difference between guys that are wrestlers and guys with a bjj background.

A lot of guys work for so much endurance they seem to have little in the strength area, there only seem to be a couple power bjj guys out there, guys like Mir and Palharez, but I really wonder about the choice of exercise the coaches give these guys.

 

I'll have to agree with you on that one..... A prime Mir isn't any better then the current version, besides his standup has slightly imptoved if anything.