Marquez and the Golpe A Golpe team analyze Pacquiao-Bradley: "He looked Spectacular"

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    The original video can be found below; the commentary from the broadcast team starts at 1:20 :

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/videohub/video/clipDeportes?id=1542345&cc=3888

    Enjoy.

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    Announcer Dude: Thanks very much, here we are; first the bulls, Jorge Eduardo Sanchez and Juan Manuel Marquez (along with analyst David Faitelson), ready to analyze what occurred tonight in Las Vegas, Nevada; a victory on the part of Tim Bradley over Manny Pacquiao. You guys have commented already, still in a state of shock, having him lose his world title in an incomprehensible manner. They talk of Karma, but this doesn’t serve professional boxing; another lamentable blow to the credibility of boxing . Today, Manny Pacquiao did great work gentlemen.

    JMM: Yes, he did great work. I saw him win by 4 points. He looked really good, he looked spectacular. We’d already said that he lost the hunger for the victory; now he demonstrated that he wants to the victory, that he wanted to show that he was the Manny Pacquiao from 2, 3 years ago, and he showed it very well, and I don’t know what fight they saw.

    Faitelson: Incredible; second time in a Pacquiao fight, of a high level in Las Vegas, where the people come out screaming “Robbery! Robbery! Robbery!” People came out infuriated; and that had nothing to do with the spectacle we saw in the ring, I thought it was a good fight. Bradley, with his limitations, showed speed, showed determination, he had will, he had hopes, but it seemed to me that today, Pacquiao dominated the fight, and I thought he won the fight; they robbed Pacquiao. That’s news-that they robbed Pacquiao. Jorge Eduardo, we’ve said that it was impossible for Pacquiao to lose via the judges. Today, the judges “knocked out” Manny Pacquiao.

    Announcer Dude: Yes, a real blow to the head of Manny Pacquiao. Last night, we’d discussed on Golpe A Golpe that the fact that Pacquiao had developed a better boxing ability, having beaten all authentically in the world of professional boxing, after the poor exhibition against Juan Manuel Marquez this past November, as well as the great exhibition of the Mexican against Pacquiao this past November. Here we knew that the pressure existed for Manny Pacquiao, and that the pressure also existed for the judges, since it as a lamentable decision. But when you make a mistake twice, the second time existing to compensate the first, well, it’s regrettable, David; we go from error to error. What does boxing need, friends, to gain a sense of transparency and credibility to everything that happens in the ring?

    JMM: Listen Jorge, it can’t be-I can’t believe- that the judges now want to vindicate themselves from the decision of this past November, by giving that result for Manny Pacquiao, who I saw win the fight by 4 rounds-they can’t vindicate themselves that way, and once again possibly affect Pacquiao’s career and favor Timothy Bradley, who gave a great fight, but not one that won it.

    Announcer Dude: Boxistically, what happened in the ring?

    Faitelson: I think that boxing is really a sport of styles. Whoever establishes conditions in the ring is the one who should win the fight. And the style of Manny Pacquiao prevailed, which ran into some trouble in the early rounds against the speed we knew Bradley had, but if Bradley had the advantage of speed, Pacquiao countered that with the greater potency (power), and for many moments, he became the great Pacquiao of history once again, one has to recognize it. Pacquiao was the dominant force in this fight, I have no doubt of that. On two occasions, he had Bradley on the edge of a knockout. I ask how a modern day champion like Bradley without a punch can be champion at 147 lbs; what is that?

    Announcer Dude: Pacquiao now gains credibility after what we observed in November, but boxing still loses all the same. Here, the big question is: what’s going to happen with Juan Manuel Marquez? He’s practically out of the game because the rematch is sure to follow?

    JMM: Yes, the rematch will come. As always, the contract was signed, and in this case, if Manny Pacquiao lost, he would get a rematch; he lost, and so I think the rematch will come in November. I end up on the outside, but well, it’s a great mistake on the part of the judges; they may want to correct the mistake they made months before, but I’ll keep training, I’ll keep going forward with my career, and depending on how things happen, I’ll see what my future is.

    Faitelson: Not only does this ruin something that Juan Manuel won himself inside the ring; it also ruins the fight that the industry wanted to see between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. This means that this fight can be years away, or we may never see it due to the interests that revolve around boxing. There is an urgency to change the way things work in order to define who wins fight. It can’t be that people keep coming out of the arena screaming robbery, when we saw a good sporting event inside the ring!

    Announcer Dude: And the real problem is that we start to become accustomed to it. Unfortunately, during the big events in Las Vegas, we start to get used to the bad failings and the terrible failings of injustices, including the case in which the most powerful man in professional boxing just felt them, the case of Manny Pacquiao. A great night of boxing, and a great victory for Randal Bailey against Mike Jones, with the power of a welterweight punch and a tremendous knockout; and regrettably, a horrible ending for the fight of Tim Bradley against Manny Pacquiao-completely undeserved.
     
  2. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the translation as always. Poor Juan, thinking the judges may have wanted to somehow right the wrong committed against him. I suppose that's a sunnier take than what most fans are thinking.
     
  3. Doc

    Doc Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I really though PAC looked really good in there at times.. except for getting tired at the end...

    but he was beasting at times with fast combos it was nice to see them go toe to toe.
     
  4. make_the_weight

    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    JMM is class act man ATG even if he likes to drink ****
     
  5. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I agree Pac won, I don't agree that he looked good. He looked old in there . His speed / explosiveness is gone. Legs are near gone as well. He needs to get ready for retirement. If he rematches bradly he should go for the KO and not lay back at all. That would be a good farewell fight.
     
  6. Bogotazo

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    He has slowed down but his legs looked good, which was my primary concern. He was able to bounce in and out practically at well, as well as bend his waist to avoid Bradley's counters. Above all, Pacquiao impressed me with his boxing ability in that fight against an almost equally fast fighter.
     
  7. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley will beat Marquez.
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for translating Bogo!

    This is why I have tons of respect for JMM. He gives credit to where it is due.
     
  9. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have to agree.


    I was wondering all night where the right hook went tho?
    Or was it not needed at all because Pac was always initiating and the left was unstoppable enough?
     
  10. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excuses. Pacquiao will lose to both Marquez and Bradley. Thats why he wants to cash out on Marquez in Mexico. And Pac did try to ko Bradley. But he couldnt. He expects you to stand there and trade punches. Just give him a little movement and he's lost. His inability to fight on the inside prevents him from cutting off the ring and keeping you on the ropes. Farewell ******* :lol:
     
  11. MarioBrothers

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    I forgot about Mike Jones losing, maybe that is why Arum went to plan B because Jones did not win:yep
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You are in the small minority that thinks Bradley won the fight. Stop talking as if you're some sort of authority on boxing when Bradley got soundly beaten in the eyes of most, even those that had Marquez beat Pacquiao. He did not win 7 rounds, no way. There's a reason an entire newscast team of Mexicans condemn the decision as a robbery.

    The right hook as a counter didn't really land because Bradley's jab wasn't really there. Pacquiao was actually the one jabbing more authoritatively, and was slipping his left in the pocket by his chin left every time Bradley did try to jab (a trick he used well against Cotto). His right hook didn't appear often, but Roach's "baby" (the jab/hook hybrid he taught Khan and Pac) was there in combination and as a single shot thrown when Manny ducked low and popped it in. Bradley moved well and avoided a good deal of punches, but Pac's lead foot was on the outside most of the night, and without the angle for that overhand right he loves to launch, Bradley was virtually lost, while Manny opened up avenues for his punches consistently.
     
  13. Gander Tasco

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    You can tell the snap in his punches and his legs are gone. He looks like he's pushing he's punches now and he isn't light on his feet anymore. He still has some speed, but he wasn't even faster then Bradley from what I could tell. I thought his boxing was ok, he made the same mistakes I'm used to seeing him make, but his physical decline compounded it. His combinations weren't there, and his intensity isn't there anymore either. He used to respond to every punch landed with his own, and try to get you back even harder. He doesn't do that anymore.

    In reality if he was anywhere near his prime he would have steamrolled bradly . I really don't wanna see pacquiao continue , but it looks like hes gonna keep going. I hope the rematch is his last fight.
     
  14. Bogotazo

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    I see what you're saying but Bradley didn't make it easy in there to simply tee off; Pacquiao wanted to look good and avoid counters, and thus, didn't beast out as he might have a few years ago.
     
  15. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I don't think that Bradley should have got the decision, but I don't think Pacquiao looked "spectacular" by his standards.