Slightly off-topic but Roy did say speed is power. We haven't really seen Khan sit on his punches throughout a fight. He did abit in the Marcos and Zab fight though. When do you think Khan's speed will diminish?
Pac absolutely defies all laws of physics, b. I've watched him spar 'n wobble 'n flatten much bigger men with what look like arm punches. When I told him his punches looked arm punches, he agreed, with a giggle. When I asked when he realized he could punch so hard, he said, "When they kept falling down"
According to physics, yes. Problem is the follow through. I think many of the speed guys get 'ruined' in the amateurs because they are pulling punches to get ready for the next 'scoring' blow.
Back in the day, there was a light-heavy, Paul Andrews, that Cus D'Amato would never allow Floyd Patterson to spar. Andrews' punches were slow as molasses 'n didn't look like that had any snap. But, could he CRACK!. Had some hight-light-reel KOs ' n dropped off the face of the Earth. Met him many years later. He confessed he couldn't deal with the attention, 'n booze was the answer for many years.
Its like seeing a home run hitter strike out, you can just tell that if they made contact they would of killed it. I think you can tell with hooks and upper-cuts if they're bombs or KO punches even if the miss
Guys with short arms and short big legs usually have a lot of power. Power is generated in the waist and legs and travels up to the tip of the first in a whipping motion. It's more like a baseball pitchers arm or football players arm sort of thing. It's technique but it's also stuff like leg strength, foot size, fist size, guys who have bad hands typically have bad power, guys who have big hands and feet and huge legs like Mike Tyson or Manny Pacquiao or Trinidad typically have good power. It's not so much the speed of the punch either but the total weight behind the punch. Michael Moorer didn't have fast punches but he was one of the most powerful punchers ever in terms of impact and how his punches felt. George Foreman and Wlad are similar to Moorer, they have massive power because of their body type not so much their speed.
Off what you're saying, R, watching Juan Diaz throw his entire body into punches 'n grunting, would you have thought he was a big banger?
He's like Roy Jones Jr. His power comes from his legs. It doesn't defy the laws of physics. Roy punched from his legs, leaping into his punches and Pacquiao does the same thing and Sugar Ray Robinson did the same thing.
Listen to the sound of Pavlik's punches. He's like a Michael Moorer or Foreman type. Those types have thudding or thumping punches. He should have watched Pavlik sparring or hitting the pads.
If you watched Pac spar, defying gravity 'n physics hell-firing arm punches while still in the air, ya might have second thoughts, B.
I have watched him hit the heavy bag and spar. He leaps generating power from his legs leaping at his opponent.
One other thing that people don't mention much in the power example. Speed + Mass = Power. Therefore why are some of the fastest fisted fighters not big punchers in the case of say Tim Bradley, Amir Khan (questionable) or Paulie Malignaggi Because part of it is where the punch comes from, big punches tend to throw the punch from the butt, with a turn and twist and a straight line to the target - some quicker punches flick the arm out there rather than throw a full punch. The other part of it is where the "target" is for the opponent. Those with longer reach tend to punch heavier because they're punching the back of the head - rather than the face. If you punch through your intended target, you tend to hit at the point of most power - which is where timing comes into play - it's about catching your opponent at the right point where you're still extending through your punch as you find an impact - rather than being at the limit of your punch when it hits.
Perhaps, over the years, B, we were both at Wild Card on the ring apron on the same day watching Pac spar. We coulda compared notes.