Why do people train at non-productive gyms?

It all comes down to the people involved. Amir Khan made mistakes because his family was greedy and wanted a cheapo trainer.

The average amateur or low level pro isn't that much smarter.

 

don't know any better

 

well for me is that i remember volunteering working at gym for 100 hours, found out they had a boxing program, joined. Thought it was hella good, they closed down the boxing program. Went to another gym and realized how much of a McDojo there was. Even then there arnt much credible boxing gyms where i live sadly. The one it seems as if theyre slowly adding to padwork and things to practice as i improve which is perfect but i only really get to sparr with one person which is okay but i'd like to get variety. What are some things to look for in a gym? The new gym im at is a basement with heavy bags hanging and a ring on the other side. It's as big a basement suite living room.

 

Convenience. The gym I go to is near to where I live, I work full-time and don't drive. The only other gym realistic for me to go to is Earlsfield ABC as I work near there, but since I have no bouts I could only go to the "Keep Fitters" class on Wednesday. Not sure if I'd eventually be able to go to the other classes or not.

Admittedly, I have no doubts that Earlsfield is above and beyond where I go now (pretty sure it's one of the better gyms in the country), but for me at least convenience is a huge factor.

 

Boxing gyms are reallly really limited in the Netherlands.

Tons of kickboxing gyms but maybe like 10 dedicated boxing gyms in the entire country and only 2 have notable fighters

 

Most people are content with being comfortable. Most people don't like to step outside if their comfort zone.

It's sport psychology....

 

Hasn't stopped a lot of martial arts gyms from being overwhelmingly mediocre.

Yes. There should be an accreditation program of some description which includes elements of physiology, sports psychology, basic first aid, etc. etc.

Not a boxing trainer, but one of the most bizarre conversations I've ever had was with a certified Yang Mian instructor. The guy was a complete ****ing space cadet. He was a weedy little skinny bloke telling me about how internally powerful he was and how he'd trained with al guys of guys, from massive wrestlers to pro boxers and mma fighters, and how they were all really strong, but the lacked internal power. While he's telling me all this he's doing breathing exercises and aligning his chi, and telling me how I should be able to see how powerful he is.

 

Location was the issue for me when I boxed. Never lived in big cities, and with school and working I didn't really have the option to spend hours travelling. I had lots of **** trainers and a couple of good ones and think I could have been better given my work ethic was always there.

Worst thing a trainer has said was after I got stopped for the first and only time and had my first bout back "win or lose, just please don't get knocked out" literally as I was about to get in the ring. Completly shot my confidence as an 18 year old, and ended up not pressuring enough (I was a short guy) for half of the fight until I realised I was much better than my opponent. Completly hammered him for the last round and a half, but couldn't turn it around and lost a majority decision. Then my club fell appart as the coach wasn't committed and that was actually my last match. I'm still pissed off things ended that way as I was dedicated to boxing fanatically for 6.5 years of my youth.

 

The other issue with that coach is that he had major issues with southpaws when he boxed. So whenever one of his boxers was fighting and doing fine, he would go into a rant during the break about how tough southpaws were and how he could never deal with them, and surprisingly, the boxer suddenly started finding his opponent awkward and losing.

 

What an idiot!

Not only does he lack any psychological sense, but there seems to be a severe shortage of common sense. :nut

 

Earlsfield ABC is one of the best clubs in Britain at the min, they had 3 ABA champions this year, Earlsfield is the very definition of productive

 

All as people call them,Good Gyms are in good catchment areas. Its a Numbers situation thing, the more chance of success long term. Not always the ability of good coaching.

 

There are many factors that end up in the way though it's fair to say at the end of the line people just decide they aren't that productive in the sport. Some people aren't willing to put in the required work or at least misled into whats required.

The guys in the non productive gyms are usually misled, casual training boxers or guys who don't plan to go that far into the sport.

 

A trainer told my friend that he should never ever lift weights, then told him that he should use kettlebells. So my friend remarked that a kettlebell is a weight and the trainer threw a hissy fit. Proper tantrum...from a 40 year old man. atsch