Can you tell a fighter's heavy-handed...

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  1. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The first pics I ever saw of George hitting the heavy bag,I swear it looked like he could punch down an oak tree.:scaredas:
     
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  2. DavetheSlave

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    Baileys punches looked innocuous initially but Jones was dead from them.

    I think Sonny Liston had a habit of laying his opponents flat out with punches that didnt look eye catching, as did old George Foreman.
     
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  3. ???

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    Nah, there was a right hand Bailey threw in an early round that Jones ducked that looked like it would've caved his face in.

    I've long suspected that the most important ingredient natural punchers share is above average bone density. If this theory is eventually backed up by science, it would help explain how fighters with such different body types, hand speed, and technique can all deliver that TNT.
     
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  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It has absolutely nothing to do with bone density, every boxer has dense bones, impact remodels bone.
    Science can explain it, it's the stiffness or compliancy of the tendons with other biomechanical things such as length of levers and mass around certain joints along with the trained ability of neuromuscular recruitment.
    Should be /thread but we have plenty of dumbos around who think God granted them special powers that can't be explained.
    How's this Garfield guy, he's got his hands on his ears and won't think because he's made up his mind. If he has knowledge about the things I'm talking about then I'd respect and accept his opinion. It's exactly the same as a religious person claiming their religion is 100% true and not hearing or seeing anything else to the contrary. It's called ignorance and laziness.
     
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  5. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    fuuuuuuuck. he clearly has insane hip/core strength to whip his huge upper body into those punches. these punches are slow enough to study its crazy haha
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZtZlTIglDU[/ame]
     
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  6. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Don't over look intent. Does a guy come up learning to 'box' instead of 'fight'? Taver says some silly crap, (My favorite was when he said a guy used a jab "almost like a punch". ) but he is right about it being the 'hurt' game.
     
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  7. StillWill

    StillWill Dr. Eisenfaust Full Member

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    Chavez Jr shots look like they should hurt more than they do I think

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-BIltv_wK0[/ame]
     
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  8. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think they'd have to review the science if they tested monster-puncher/bag-a-twigs Lou Jenkins.
     
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  9. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree. To me it looks like Jr "throws" his arms then pivots his hips instead of the other way around.
     
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  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Garfield guy's here, d. The KO power equation's sophistry. Well-intended , or not, They're not scientists; they're alchemists. They have as much chance of making a singles hitter into Barry Bonds as science has of making man fly like a bird, after trying since the beginning of time.

    Ascribing how somebody punched hard by reviewing tape in slomo doesn't make somebody else a knockout puncher.

    Get used to what veteran trainers know: KO power's as easy to come by as The Fountain of Youth. Fighters just have to make the most of what they have.
     
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