Judge Roth: “How anybody could see that fight so one-sided is beyond me

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  1. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im pretty sure you meant Helenius...or Fury?

    They haven't fought yet.
     
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  2. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    I respect your opinion more than most on here IB.

    [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1656951[/url]

    What are your thoughts on this though.

    91 reporters favour manny, to 1 that favour Bradley.
     
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  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I don't know how much more transparent these cats can be...it seems as if they have been far more open than usual in terms of their logic etc. Personally I agree with them. I was surprised that Bradley got the decision but I wasn't surprised at the scores.
     
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  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Cotto got his ass beat brah and you still mad lol.

    One guy looked like this post fight

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    And one looked like this

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    I give Cotto props this time. Took his ass whoopin like a man and didnt take no knees or quit. Good job. :good
     
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  5. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yes it's much worse when Pacquiao gets robbed because as Schaffer stated in an interview, this is a highly visible fight. In order for new fans to be interested in the sport, we need a credible sport to watch. If we try and get new people to watch an exciting fight, no matter how great the match-up may be, the new viewer might be inclined to do something else because "whats the point they'll get robbed anyway". Ridiculous? See how many peopel tweeted that they're "done with boxing". It's becoming nearly impossible to defend the sport I love to the casual viewer...and it's because of **** like this that they end up seeing.

    Rios/Abril or Holyfield/Valuev or Williams/Lara...all of those fights weren't promoted, viewed or marketed anywhere near the same way that this fight was and like we all keep saying...a robbery on THIS stage is ALWAYS bad for boxing.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    He's makes some great points.
     
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  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Me either. I admitted Bradley didnt win and Pac got a gift but given how inactive Pac was down the stretch i was not shocked.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

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    Your brain isn't functioning properly. Maybe a lack of oxygen. Slow down. Have a drink of water. Breathe in, through your nose.

    At no point did Roth ever say that he was using "whether or not Pac showed his usual killer instinct" as a direct scoring criteria or factor. You, JohnAnthony, and BKruise are all assuming you knew what he meant by mentioning the lack of usual killer instinct, when really it's just over your heads.

    The easiest way for your minds to process it I guess is "OH OK. ROTH MEAN HE ONLY SCORE ROUND FOR PAC WHEN PAC SHOW KILLER INSTINCT. ROTH NOT SCORE ROUND FOR PAC WHEN PAC NOT SHOW KILLER INSTINCT BECAUSE PAC SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. DERP DERP DERP."

    No capacity for complex thought. :verysad

    That isn't at all what he was talking about when mentioning Pac's relative lack of killer instinct.

    "Then in the latter part of the fight I thought he just didn't do enough. He didn't have that killer instinct that he usually has."

    Nowhere does he say there is a direct and exclusive causal relationship between the two. You numbskulls are arbitrarily bridging the gap between those two sentences, substituting period at the end of the first with a comma and the word BECAUSE. Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you see where you've erred?

    He didn't feel Pacquiao did enough in the latter part of the fight. FULL STOP. <--- reasons for scoring as he did.

    Pacquiao didn't have that killer instinct that he usually has. FULL STOP. <--- contextual observation, NOT a reason for scoring.

    Jeez Louise...
     
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  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    And he didn't score it for Bradley so what's your point?
     
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  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Lol IB told him "have some water baby"
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

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    :patsch Helenius, yeah. :yep
     
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  12. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  13. m8te

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    this is absolutely seamless and priceless.
     
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    This.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    I don't feel more or less appalled by on a human level by the Rios robbery than this one. Personally, I was far more outraged by it however and yes it is easily the angriest I have been since Cas-Santa Cruz. That has nothing to do with the HBO broadcast or with Pacquiao's popularity where my scorecard is concerned, but on one level you are right. It is more disturbing because Pacquiao is a huge star ostensibly backed by a huge and powerful organisation. If he can't get a fair shake, one does not exist.

    If a fighter like Pacquiao can't get a fair shake, who can.
     
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