Kelly Pavlik vs Carlos Monzon 160lbs

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  1. Bobo

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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    C'mon this is just ridiculous.....of course though there will certainly be some delusional old timers who have to pick Monzon based purely on nostalgia...Back when I was young...Blah, blah, blah and blah!!!!!

    With modern nutrition and training Pavlik is light years ahead of the pre historic Monzon...why in this day and age I am not sure if Carlos could even beat Kelly's wife, presuming that he has one that is!
     
  3. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on...Monzon would probably come out the victor, but Pavlik wouldn't be the worst contender on his resume. Monzon would get extra points considering Pavlik has about 3 inches on him, something Monzon never had to deal with.
     
  4. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said this in the general. when I picture Monzon and someone like Hopkins standing shoulder to shoulder, I see Monzon having quite a bit height on him, but Hopkins has about 2 inches on him which is strange to fathom
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    seriously??? modern training and nutrition or not Monzon is just a couple classes above Pavlik. Talk nutrition and modern training all you want. Fact of the matter is alot of todays champs are fighting on fumes by the 11th round. Monzon smoked and never had a problem going 15 rounds.
     
  6. Diagoras

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    I think PhillyPhan69 was being sarcastic, if not...

    Any ways Monzon by late stoppage or may be UD if it was his later days when he had a harder time finishing due to his arthritis troubles & the bullet lodged in his shoulder, Monzon was just a much better fighter.
     
  7. Mr. Minmon

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    Pavlik gives him trouble and rocks him early, Monzon takes over in the mid rounds and does his thing to take a comfortable UD.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I hope so.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    You need to go back and watch some films. I seriously feel judging from your response that you never even saw Monzon fight.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    In recent years, Monzon has been transformed into a punchless wonder. He'd have ko'ed Pavlik by round 7 with a few right hands.
     
  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Pavlik ?
    Pavlik in his best days would be somewhat hard I think......but no way he would be able to beat prime Monzon.....
    Monzon was better in Pavliks own game !!
     
  12. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if boxrec is correct, this would be about the size differential in the fight. just for some perspective, because I know at least for me it's hard to visualize Monzon being shorter. just fast forward to any point in the fight.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkfx5vxnJRc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkfx5vxnJRc[/ame]



    edit: although, Monzon did stand more straight up; Pavlik bends down more
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    right on.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pavlik would be the new Tony Mundine. To hell with height..Pavlik's ring IQ is that of a child's next to Monzon.
     
  15. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    :patsch