The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly what I thought.

    You make a terribly flawed argument, you create fallacies and you don't have the integrity to defend your own weak post., and yet you expect Montoya to reply to you. Why would he? Your post is banal dross, completely devoid of any interesting point and you know full well it is, which is why when questioned on it, you are unable to make any sort of feasible response and run away.

    There is no tangible evidence to suspect Pacquiao of cheating. He hasn't failed a test, he hasn't worked with cheats, he hasn't worked with anyone in the drug industry and so on. You, and legions of other people, just call him guilty because Roger, Floyd Sr. and Floyd Jr., said so. Congratulations on being a lemming. A boring, repetitive, uncreative, unintelligent, cowardly lemming.
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather hasn't fought outside of Nevada for 7 years. 3 of Pacquiao's last 5 fights have been outside Nevada.
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack, you're the most biased poster on the site. You question a very small part of my post and then try to control what information I use to argue back with. Floyd is a probably a cheat because he has connections to a TRT guy yet his USADA negative test results are publicly available and include CIR testing. If you want to believe that there is some cover up conspiracy, then go right ahead. Just don't question others when they have actual facts to bring to the table.

    1) Pacquiao fights in Nevada, too. But I assume you mean that Nevada is in on this conspiracy?

    2) I want to know more about why Gabe (insinuated) and Conte (clearly) expressed their opinion that Ariza is a PED man.

    3) Despite what you think, with PED's blowing up, Pacquiao looks like a tool for continuing to refuse to take additional testing. You look like a fool for arguing that "Manny hasn't failed a test" yet admitting that NSAC testing makes things easy for fighters to cheat and get away with it.

    Texas? Is that really your response? Unreal, even for a muppet like you.

    Better luck next time, champ. :lol:
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Texas :rofl :rofl
     
  5. Emeritus

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    Wasn't Texas where they completely forgot to test Chavez Jr recently? :patsch
     
  6. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know, right. Give me a ****ing break.

    And, it's 2/5 and not 3 as he said. Moreover, 9 of Pacquiao's last 11 fights have been in Vegas. Do your homework, Jack.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't quote more of your post because there wasn't anything to pick up on. Not because you're right but because they were terrible arguments. If you want to argue the sky is green, go ahead, I won't pick up on what you say.

    NSAC are factually biased, yes. When a fighter has abnormally low testosterone, that's because they are taking drugs which lower it and yet NSAC allow that? Please. That's as corrupt as you will ever see.

    And that comment was regarded Mayweather's refusal to fight outside of Las Vegas in recent years. Pacquiao does fight in Vegas but is willing to fight elsewhere, something Mayweather is clearly unwilling to do.
    What exactly did Montoya say? Post the direct quote because I'm not interested in some blind fanboy, like you, twisting something to suit their own agenda.
    Pacquiao always stated that if the NSAC or any other commission requested it, he'd take the test. I have no issue with that. If Pacquiao refused to do the testing which was legally required, then I'd have an issue but he is well within his rights to say "**** off" to anyone who demands he does anything.

    Give me a single shred of proof that Pacquiao is linked to drugs. As I said, don't be a moron and use the argument that he's denied testing. Give me a single tangible argument that Pacquiao is in any way connected to drugs.
    The argument isn't that Texas is honest. It isn't. It's as dishonest as any commission out there. You might want to learn a bit more, lad.
     
  8. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just in case you're wondering... Jack is making you look like a total ******* and a biased joke with zero actual information other than your own opinion.
     
  9. Jack

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    That's the thing. He asked why I didn't reply to more of his post, but why would I? It's just all his own opinion and fabrication. I have no interest in what his own worthless, biased opinion is. Whatever Mayweather comes out with, he will defend because he's biased.

    I've asked this question countless times but nobody will give an honest answer: What tangible proof is there that Pacquiao takes anything? There is none.
     
  10. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ariza and Montoya were having a pissing match one day and Ariza replied to Montoya telling him to call him if he wants to talk about something and added the hashtag #twitterballs. Montoya replied with "I guess that's better than #steroidballs, right Alex". Conte has also tweeted dozens of times "In my opinion, Ariza is a PED coach". Are Montoya and Conte simply influenced by the Mayweather's, like a blind fanboy like myself? Was Montoya simply using steroids since that was a convenient jab or does he actually have information on that? I simply want to know why both Ariza and Conte think that Ariza is a PED coach. It's a legitimate question.

    Your position on the NSAC, considering Manny fights there as well, is complete and utter bull**** and not even worth discussing. "Pacquiao is willing to fight anywhere and Mayweather isn't", really Jack? Honestly, complete cringe worthy stuff. And, if you don't feel that Manny should take additional testing to prove that he is a clean fighter, then you have no business in this thread and especially cozying up to Gabe as you are clearly intending to do here.

    And, don't call me lad. I'm probably 10-15 years older than you and have spent more money actually going to fights than you have made in your lifetime.

    In case you haven't seen this:

    http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather
     
  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What tangible evidence is there that Mayweather takes anything?

    http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

    You're trying to connect dots yourself and refusing to consider the best and only information available to us.

    To be clear, I'm for full, complete testing for all fighters (especially in championship and/or fights with purses to enable it) and full disclosure. If Mayweather is cheating, I will no longer be a fan of his. I also think Pacquiao needs to step up to the plate.
     
  12. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol, shouldn't you be in the lounge talking about chess and greek fascism? Get a life, you pole smoker. :lol:
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Bottom line, to imply there is reason to suspect PBF, but no reason to suspect Manny, is one of the more idiotic arguments I've seen presented on this forum.
     
  14. PBFred

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    It's also ridiculous to demand full disclosure from Mayweather, question the official findings from the USADA, yet say that Manny has every right to deny requests for additional testing.

    Either you are on board, or you ain't. Jack can't seem to figure out his position.
     
  15. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right... because after all the Mayweathers have made the accusation a few dozen times, so that must mean it's true!
     
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