The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's your problem, you are to vague, people are not mind readers, if you have something to say then say it, cut the bull**** out, call a spade a spade.
     
  2. GabrielMontoya

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    People that know me would completely disagree. The statement was as clear as anything I have ever said.

    Yourself and others have been harshly critical of me without actually opening a dialogue. Its counterproductive and time wasteful. Obviously I am here and open to talking within certain parameters. If I were you, I would try less attacking and reach further towards enlightenment or at least an open mind.

    Have a good day.
     
  3. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually opening dialogue?, both PBFRED and BIGreg asked you legitimate questions which you either brushed off or gave a one line generic answer. Is that what you call a discussion?

    So let me get this straight, you can ask all the questions you want but don't feel the need to give an informative answer to those questions presented to you?

    Yet you have a hissy fit when USADA don't oblige you with the information you seek and require and instead give you a generic response i.e (showing blood and urine negative tests in a press release), which wasn't quite what you was looking for correct?

    Around here mate we call that being a bloody hypocrite.

    You should practice what you preach.

    And yes I will have a good day.
     
  4. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For instance, when Bob Arum, Pacquaio and Top Rank gave reasons (otherwise known as excuses) not to participate in random drug testing for a Mayweather fight in 09, which led to a potential mega fight being scrapped.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    But there's no reason for them to pay you any mind. They've released their test results. To further claim that one of the participants failed 3 drug tests regardless, is tantamount to calling them liars. Considering the information your asking for is very broad, I don't see any reason for them to pay attention to any of your requests.

    Imagine if I said that through hearsay, and my own interpretations of vague comments from people that know you, that I suspected you were a Russian spy. Now imagine if requested that you show me all your legal documents, e-mails, and phone records to prove that you weren't a Russian spy. You'd probably brush it off and ignore me. I can only imagine that's how GBP and the USADA feel about you.
     
  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So exposing the S&C coach of the best fighter in the world and one of the most popular fighters in the history of boxing wouldn't be a huge story?

    If exposing Ariza wouldn't be huge, nothing would be. That would implicate Pacquiao, who is an international star like Ali or Tyson were. It'd be the biggest story in recent history.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did they allow the documents to be shown or did they refuse?

    Simple question, simple answer.
     
  9. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This Gabe guy called Ariza a PED coach. So do we take that as the truth or de we take that as being petty and childish.

    Seriously jack stop jerking off to this guy, he's making you look more foolish than you already are.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The funny thing is, PBFred private messaged me about this post. He said "Montoya complimented me and validated my posts". It's quite funny how PBFred can attack Montoya's opinion for ages but when Montoya supposedly "validates" his posts, he takes it as gospel.

    Aside from that, I think he's saying something more like "you're intelligent but by bragging about your money and handing out insults, you lose all credibility". Hardly a compliment.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    So assuming Montoya called Ariza a "PED coach", are you saying he was lying (hence not breaking a "story") essentially shooting his credibility, or are you saying that even though Montoya and Conte made these references, you just don't care?
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not defending Montoya at all. What he said about PEDs to Ariza was nothing more than a tit-for-tat, petty comment and I'm sure he'd agree with that in hindsight.

    Seeing as we're playing that game, look at this comment I made:
    I couldn't care less what people say on Twitter. It's an extremely casual site and what Montoya says on there doesn't affect his reputation as a journalist. I think he's a good journalist and if he wants to make petty comments on Twitter, that's his choice, but it doesn't mean his stories are worthless.

    The funny thing is though, people like you praised Mayweather for wanting to clean up the sport and when Montoya tries even more to do that and catch cheats, people like you do anything they can to diminish his reputation. What you don't understand is this isn't about Mayweather, Pacquiao or any other individual fighter it's about the massive issue of drugs as a whole and I support Montoya in that because I want a clean sport.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know what their relationship is, I don't know whether the 'argument' was real or not, I don't know what Montoya's sense of humour is like and Twitter is a very casual site.

    If Montoya had accused Ariza in one of his articles, it'd be a different matter. People jumping on what he says on Twitter are being absurd. I'd guess it was a simple petty comment and nothing more.
     
  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was trying to make a point which he understood. You decided to jump in with guns blazing and attack me. I actually met him a couple of years ago in Vegas and he was very open and willing to chat. Seemed like a good, genuine guy.

    No, that's not what he said. Read his post to me closer. He's saying that I owned you but that I should have ignored your petty insults and stuck to the facts.

    Anyways, I'm done here.
     
  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet you PMed me asking me to publically apologize. If you had "owned me", why would that matter? My opinion would be worthless. Like I said, you questioned Montoya's integrity and you lied about what I said several times. Anyone who goes back a couple of pages will see what really happened but if you want to claim some moral victory, good luck to you.

    Personally, I'm glad Montoya is doing what he is doing. He shouldn't be facing criticism from people like you, purely because your favourite boxer happens to be someone who has been questioned. Maybe that's because unlike you, I'm a bigger fan of boxing as a sport than any individual fighter.
     
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