so Ward vs Dawson is jOakland after all

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  1. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excited? Lets be real Sergio would never fight anybody as good as Ward or Dirrell and while I would enjoy the fight I would give neither props for beating Sergio's ass. It was neutral ground organizers thought Froch had real fans and that they would fly over to see the fight.
     
  2. Jaber

    Jaber Guest

    here we go again.so NJ is not a state in US?when was excluded and why?
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt think that is true, but people notice how all of the original S6 travelled except for Ward who stayed at home and things like how the ref warned Kessler for head use.
    Ward hasnt proved himself by travelling.

    Consider that American and American based fighters and Canadian and Canadian based fighters dont seem to be able to win big fights at SMW when fighting in Europe.
    Consider how Lacy, Dirrell, J Taylor, Bute, Pascal, Mitchell, Brewer etc all were beaten in Europe

    In Europe
    Bute, Dirrell, Pascal, Andrade, Green, Lucas, Lacy, Manfredo, Pudwill, McIntyre, Jimenez, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Schommer, Holmes, Close (I said based in America), Thornton, Essett, Jarvis, McClellan, Perez, Gatti (not Arturo), Tate, Butler, G Johnson, Hernandez, Bryan
    Lost in Europe
    This just gives an idea but do consider that out of those 28 fighters 21 were or became world rated in the division, and some fought more than once in Europe, so there are even more losses to add to that.
     
  4. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal

    Plus, neither Ward nor Dawson are huge draws. Oakland is likely the only financially viable venue.
     
  5. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    ward defeated froch and kessler too thoroughly for the venue to have been a factor at all.
     
  6. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    if venue and country are such a huge determining factor, then why was froch able to defeat taylor in devastating fashion, in america, and not able to come close to doing the same to ward? oh yeah, skills.
     
  7. Vagabund_vD

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    To be fair: while Ward has beaten Kessler clearly, the refereeing in the fight was a disgrace.
     
  8. Smacked

    Smacked Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a joke Ward is. The guy is a coward plain and simple. I hope Dawson Ko's him
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Is Ward just trying to bring fights to Oakland ? If they want to make him a star they need to go to Staples.. Too bad though neither guys is a major draw !
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    i thought dawson said he has injury?

    Now it has to be at 168 and at Jokeland too?

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  12. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    he's gaining quite a following in the bay area. I dont think he should make the move to staples just yet. staples is reserved for bigger stars, like juan manuel marquez.
     
  13. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  14. Ethan

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    Ward needs to fight Martinez. I dont rate Martinez that high but at least it will ignite this area of weight class a bit. There are some great fights available, is it promoters or greedy fighters who are messing things up, not sure
     
  15. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal I respect Royal-T-Bag as a poster and a solid contributer but this responce is on point..