OT: USADA going after Lance Armstrong

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chili, Jun 13, 2012.


  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't apply crudimentary boxing tests to top tier cycling. The **** and methods they are on and the advanced nature of the AFLD are beyond USADA's grasp.
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    This has nothing to do with boxing testing.
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    USADA is an agency, they don't collect the samples, nor do they store them, nor do they actually do any testing. It's a freaking office. In Pro Cycling, the UCI collects and then it goes the Lab.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    So the USADA are lying about taking the samples?
     
  5. Hermit

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    Strange thing is they are saying that samples from 2009/2010 are consistent with blood doping and EPO? Weren't they testing for those then? Why did they just find it now? One hell of a backlog?
     
  6. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    USADA feeling threatened by VADA?
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't really recall if he did many US races, maybe the ToC? His Euro races would fall under the AFLD or LLND and or the Italians/Spaniards so they wouldn't have any access to those.

    Best I would assume is that they would take his samples from the ToC and have them sent out to the French for plasticizer testing for blood doping.

    Now the thing is, they are not supposed to know whose samples they have, that is illegal. You only have digits, and no way to corroborate those digits into an identity. lol.
     
  8. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lying to protect Floyd. :-( Damn that Mayweather money must be some good ****.
     
  9. pejevan

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    How in the hell would USADA have Lance Armstrong's blood samples when he raced primarily as a professional athlete.

    UCI would have most of his samples,which is the organizing body of professional cycling.

    USADA had Marion Jone's blood samples.Why don't they re-tests those. Afterall,they never were able to get any postive results from her.
     
  10. Emeritus

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    I would assume and it is only an assumption that either they went back and retested or they now understand the data better.

    Everytime they catch someone they make them tell them how they doped and how they beat the test and what they took etc etc.

    So maybe they know how to interpret the data better now remember all of these agencies are behind the drugs cheats......they essentially need people like Victor Conte, Dwain Chambers etc etc to tell them what they were doing to circumvent their testing methods etc etc
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    The USADA are just saying from2009 - 2010 because Lance Armstrong tried to compete as a triathlete during these times. So that is the onlytimethey have the specimens.

    USADA is known to turn a blind eye to positive results by simply saying that sample B is negative.
     
  12. Emeritus

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    Lance wouldnt have even needed to do any races in the USA to be tested by USADA......as Im sure cycling is subjected to all year round testing......as he lived in the USA it is feasible that he could have had a sample collected by USADA.
     
  13. Emeritus

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    Can you give an example of this turning a blind eye? I wasnt aware of this
     
  14. pejevan

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    USADA has no jurisdiction with regards to professional sports.USADA is the WADA arm in the USA.

    If Armstrong competed in the Olympics or its other sanctioned races,then Armstrong is subjected to those tests.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not how it works, it's not like fingerprinting or Interpol. Oh and he lived in France.



    Interesting. I'm sure the roadie forums are all over this.