OT: USADA going after Lance Armstrong

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chili, Jun 13, 2012.


  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol: amazing how people will trace this back to mayweather somehow when it's armstrong who may be in trouble.
     
  2. Hermit

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    Interesting if true, but why just hold samples if they don't know who's they are? Just for random sampling later as new techniques become available?
     
  3. Emeritus

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    I thought he was living in the USA in 2009? If he lived in France Im not sure how USADA got involved.....I would just be speculating....

    In any case Im not sure what USADA is being accused of here?
     
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    They have to be able to identify who those samples belong too otherwise how do they know who is doping and who is not?

    I understand that the lab is not supposed to know who they are testing so they cannot interefer with the results other wise the whole process is open to manipulation.

    In the same breath if better testing becomes available they surely must be able to go back and test specific athletes they were previously supecious of right?
     
  5. Hermit

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    US government investigated for 2 years. Where was USADA then?

    [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/13/sport/armstrong-doping-allegations/index.html[/url]


    Justice Department prosecutors in February said they closed a criminal investigation after reviewing allegations against Armstrong. They had called witnesses to a federal grand jury in Los Angeles, but they apparently determined they lacked evidence to bring a charge that Armstrong used performance-enhancing drugs.

    "These are the very same charges and the same witnesses that the Justice Department chose not to pursue after a two-year investigation," Armstrong said Wednesday.
     
  6. thesmokingm

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    He raced a couple races in the US, namely the ToC, or Tour of California. This really is a waste of millions more dollars though. As if that bloke from the Feds going after him wasn't enough.
     
  7. pejevan

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    The way USADA protocols interprets tests results leads to many tests being discarded as false positives.

    two samples have to turn up positive in order for the tests to be considered positive.

    There was an article which I cannot seem to find anymore where USADA apparently won't label athletes as cheats because of fear of litigation from athletes. That is why the they use two sample positive.
     
  8. turbotime

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    Lance was on the good ish that the USADA couldn't detect at the time.
     
  9. pejevan

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    These are professional cycling races under the auspices of UCI. USADA really does not have jurisdiction over these races.
     
  10. Hermit

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    Suspicious of a man that passed over 500 random tests? Suspicious because of his success? Hard work and dedication ring a bell? :D Lance is understandably playing the 'vendetta' card.
     
  11. thesmokingm

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    That's true. It would be the UCI collecting then out to whomever lab.
     
  12. Hermit

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    EPO and blood doping were well known before 2010.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    You don't say.
     
  14. Hermit

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    Are you just trying to get your post count up or you just don't care to read what doesn't suit your talking points?
     
  15. turbotime

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    Like I previously said, possibly they just currently retested the sample with improved testing they didn't have in 2009/2010