OT: USADA going after Lance Armstrong

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  1. Emeritus

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    Id like to see that article.......Id like to take what you say at face value BUT.......well you know what I would say next, so we'll leave it at that!
     
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    Well yes he did pass over 500 tests but you have to remember at least one rider within his team was caught and snitched on Lance so maybe he gave USADA or whoever information on how the passed these tests.

    Potentially they were able to confirm what was told to them with the test results.....by retesting?

    Because USADA state that Lance supplied drugs and past the tests from 1998 - 2011 that is HUGE time frame......
     
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    The feds just closed a 2-year investigation. All the same witnesses and tests were available to them. Where was USADA then? This just seems strange somehow.
     
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    OK I was vaguely familiar with that story but USADA was not involved with that story nor does it clear up what previous poster said about USADA refusing to state an athlete was dirty but "just saying" the B sample was clean?
     
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    OK so what are you saying USADA are guilty of here? :huh
     
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    My uncle is big into cycling.. apparently it's common knowledge in those circles that Armstrong was a doper.

    But in the 90's-early noughties everyone doped..absolutely everyone supposedly..so it was an even playing field.
     
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    Floyd landis.

    Sure.

    You have to believe in the science of things.If Landis says so, is it true?

    Where is the USADA blood results? There was a inquiry already on this case involving higher authorities thatn USADA and with more financial resources than USADA but they never turned out anything positive.

    What WADA have are blood tests of Lance Armstrong from2009 - 2010 where he tried to compete in triathlete. If that one was positive, why only now? The science for PEDS testing is quite already far advance.

    Why does Lance Armstrong have to go through several never-ending dead-end inquiries. It only happened to Lance, not to any other athlete.




    The first thing that USADA has to do is right wrongs first.


    They got samplesof Marion Jones,even Carl Lewis. Why don't they re-tests those? Afterall, USADA never had thempositive anyway. At some point in their careers, their sample-A were positive.
     
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    LOL, I was just reading, WADA is backing away from their vaunted Plasticizers testing which was via urine btw. Apparently nobody thought about the FACT that DEHP, the plastic in blood bags is also the same plastic in a lot of plastic... Get the picture? ROFL, ****ing morons. This is why you cannot give these antidoping agencies too much credit.
     
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    There are a lot of controversy regarding WADA, which ia the USADA mother agency, have.

    I really can't be bothered going to find them because these has been debated about 3 years ago in ESB and I brought this up ragarding their credibility.
     
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    Attention whoring. If they had the evidence then why didn't they give it to the feds? If the evidence exists that means they withheld it. They knew the investigations were going on.
     
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    as a long distance athlete i know all top runners and cyclists use doping
    nothing new there
    but why do they gun for Lance specifically?
     
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    The problem with the Feds are that they have to rule according to our record of law. WADA/USADA do not because a legal entity they are not!
     
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    How could you not be pissed off if your name was Dick Pound? WTF?






    http://caliradocyclist.blogspot.com/2007/02/dick-pound-is-ruler-of-dick-pound-world.html
     
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    Really? Well thats a first I guess.....

    I'm not going to assume too much I'm interested to see how this develops....

    Also you are making quite a few assumptions without having access to the facts, how do you know they didnt obtain this evidence last week? Or even that they did present it to the feds however there was something mitigating that prevented the feds from proceeding with it?

    I feel alot of people are skeptical of USADA purely because its the agency of choice for Mayweather.