Conditioning program for Heavyweight Amateur Boxer

"The fact is that every single coach I've worked with said weightlifting is unnecessary and that boxers shouldn't do it. Most big time trainers say the same thing."

LOLOLOL @ That! Yet they still do 1000 sit ups a day, Run for 100 miles a week etc.

MOST Boxing coaches methods on getting fit and their theories about Weights are VERY outdated.

Most Boxing coaches think that you are only allowed to lift within the rep range of 8-12 (Bodybuilder style).

How about reps of 30? How about instead of doing a set number of reps you do it for 45 seconds or a minute each set?

Muscle Endurance/Strength/Power etc are all major parts of Boxing, right? You can get great results that will crossover to the ring from mimicking movements in the gym with weights that you'd do in the ring (Barbell corner push, etc).

Once a Boxing coach starts talking to me about Weights i switch off due to 99.9% of them knowing JACK **** about them.

Bicep Curls, Skullcrushers etc are pretty pointless. But Squats, Deadlifts etc are what's needed to help, imho.

I've gone a while without hitting a bag, the pads or sparring yet I've always done Weights... Go back into the Boxing gym and do any of the 3 i mentioned and BAM! My power is better than ever, when it comes to doing ground work my core is MUCH stronger due to doing Squats/Deads etc and not doing "crunches"! LOLOLOL.

Get a clue before you run your mouth aboutt this kind of thing ;-)

 

load of ****



I'd rather listen to a boxing trainer than some ****** called Nipple on the internet

 

I just started crossfit to help my boxing fitness, you lift weights amongst other thins such as sprints, track intervals, rope climbs, circuits, skipping, box jumps and a whole host of other exercises. My fitness is coming along tremendously and I feel it is very beneficial for boxing.

A lot of the circuits are the same or very similar, my strength is coming on, but I'm not putting size on because my diet isn't catered to put on any mass, and my lifts aren't that heavy. People have a lot of misconceptions about weights, yet in my experience (which to me is what counts the most) there are no bad points to a strength programme to run a alongside boxing, running, swimming, circuits, cycling, rowing etc.

For me as soon as I start getting bored with conditioning, it's a lot harder for me to drag my ass over the front door and actually train.

One observation of this forum is a lot of people still seem to want to train like the boxers did in the 50's and 60's and go out and run 20 mile every morning in old army boots and never lift weights because Ali didn't....there's a lot of info out there to educate people, I just didn't realise there's only a handful of people who actually wanted to expand their knowledge on fitness.

Just because I lift weights doesn't mean I weigh 100kg/ im too tired to box etc.

 

Yeah, ****ing idiot called UNCLE ROGER. Lolol

Well, why wouldn't it help? Your power comes from the legs doesn't it?

You should try it one day instead of doing 8 miles in the morning followed by 600 sit ups.

Uneducated idiot.

 

Don't hate bro.

Appreciate the wisdom I have bestowed upon your ignorant mind.

 

the biggest problem with weightlifting, if you want to be a good, boxer, is that you cannot box while you are lifting weights. It is just wasted time. I'm not nearly educated enough in this regard to get into the muscle contractions and so on...But if you want to be able to dead lift 660 pounds, lift weights. If you want to be a good boxer, box.
As to the original question...If you are getting gassed early on in sparring, you won't learn much from it. I would advise easing up on the weights and concentrating on doing wind-building exercises. Things like throwing punches on the heavy bag for 3 minutes a round; you'll probably have to take breaks at first, but work as much of the 3 minutes as you can. Run...Probably 3 mile mornings are out of the question at this point, and not a necessity anyway. Again working on 3 minute intervals, alternately run, sprint and jog. For example, start out sprinting for 30 seconds, then jog until you catch your breath, then run until you can sprint again, and so on. For your one minute rest, walk real fast.

 

Worst argument ever in the history of weightlifting disputes

 

That's not a bad argument. What he said usually tends to be true and, is the thought of most boxing people over time...

 

You'd be surprised at some of the **** I've heard. Saying that, I live in a region that is largely populated by ******s.

 

My view on this is pretty simple. If you are a beginner amateur with serious aims you should be 100% focused on developing your skills and getting fit enough to box. If you are in the gym every day training hard, sparring, doing circuits etc. you will not have any time/energy to be hitting the weights. If you do have the energy, then you are not working on your craft hard enough.

I have a completly different view once you are experienced and can vary various aspects of your training. My initial coaching is the Soviet school of boxing, where boxing specific weights were used to develop strength and explosiveness. I think they have their role, but I think that many young guys get far too carried away and make their role to central in their training.

 

:finger5

 

Weights are constant, Joint movement on a lever system are not.

 

Improving strength, speed, power, mobility to name a few, is a waste of time then, yeah?

660lbs is power lifter kind of level. Why do you think a boxer would have such a high target weight?

Another guy throwing out uneducated BS.

 

This is the problem in the vast majority of cases. Guys start boxing and want to get stronger, so of course they lift weights, body builder style. Far too much volume, lots of isolation, not enough recovery, not eating enough, no mobility work/stretching etc and this is what everyone refers to when connecting weight lifting to boxing. Anyone with a clue will tell you that is the wrong way to go, yet we have guys posting here with this mindset of people using weights as described above like this is how everybody that lifts weights trains. It's just not the case.

 

Agreed. But in addition to this, I think when you are starting out the sport of boxing, even intellegent use of weights should be far down your priorities. When you have some experience and are competing, I think its a good part of your overall training if done correctly as you say.