No...not even close. An overwhelming about of fans scored last weeks' fight for PAC. A lot of people had PAC winning even though most had the fight for JMM. Even more had the fight a draw than those who thought PAC pulled out the "W" in the rubber match last November. There's a big difference in a close competitive fight that turns out a unpopular/semi controversial decision and a complete robbery like the one on June 9th that has produced yet another black eye for the sport.
Or perhaps most viewers are incapable of being objective when scoring a fight with one of the two legitimate global megastars in all of boxing and will give him far more credit than he deserves because they know he's supposed to be great, so surely whatever he's doing is great. And the HBO commentary just reenforces that. Pacquiao has a TON of fans, that's going to skew any public poll results. The fact is he beat Bradley by a couple of rounds and loss to Marquez by a few rounds but the star factor turns that into a domination of Bradley (a guy he never put down or even had in trouble) and a close competitive fight with Marquez (a guy who landed the harder, cleaner, punches round after round). And the real ***** of it is if you score the Bradley fight as a wide win for Pacquiao despite Bradley being the busier fighter you must do it because Pacquiao was the more effective puncher even in the last half of the fight where he was doing nothing for two minutes out of every round. But then you have to apply the same criteria to the Marquez fight which leads to Marquez winning by about a six round margin because the rounds you give to Pacquiao at the end are only because he was "busier" and Marquez "took his foot off the gas" and apparently that isn't enough reason to give a fighter rounds when the other fighter is landing the harder, cleaner punches.
First are scored based on rounds. If I land 200 punches in a round and none in the rest of the fight I lose that fight. You're also ignoring the fact that compubox is a fancy name for two dudes sitting at a ringside pushing buttons. It's no more valuable a metric than my own eyes, and my eyes tell me that Pacquiao did not double Bradley in punches landed, nor did he outland Marquez by an appreciable enough margin to matter. A glancing blow that hits mostly glove should not count as much as a solid right straight to the chin, but in compuboxland it does. If you rely on stats like that to make your case you are tacitly agreeing that you can't make a case based on the action that happened within the rounds of the fight.
In both fight Pac landed more harder punches. In both fight, the champ was the one who bringing the fight to challenger instead the opposite. In both fight the challenger didn't do enough to win. In Bradley fight, Pac was tickled by Bradleys punches constantly landed on Pacs gloves and arms while Marquez actually counterpunched Pac. Pac won in a close fight against Marquez. Pac robbed even though he beat Bradley from post to post and put him in a wheelchair.
Pac lost to Marquez and the universe decided to try and rectify that by giving Bradley the win in his next fight. He couldn't even beat a dude fighting on a broken ankle. Some champion.
LOL either way you look at it Pac is 1-1 in his last 2...plus there is nothing to suggest he beats Floyd. Infact, everything is there to suggest he gets dominated by Floyd.
Maybe most viewers are incapable of being objective when it comes to scoring for a "mega star" in this sport....Maybe most are influenced more from commentary than what actually takes place....but at the end of the day there are a LOT of highly respected individuals who have years of experience and knowledge within the sport who aren't "Most viewers"...and they all saw the same exact thing. It's not just the polls that are overwhelmingly one sided in favor of PAC...it's all the media coverage, blogs and quotes from anyone and everyone who saw the fight. Even BIASED folks who favored Tim can't justify the robbery that took place on June 9th....Andre Ward for example....That's Tim's boy...and he called a spade..a spade.. Even though it wasn't easy to tell the truth that wasn't in favor of his homeboy. The fact that Manny beat Tim by A LOT MORE than a couple of rounds and the fight was given to Tim has created the awareness to the possible corruption and issues within the sport with regards to scoring. PAC vs JMM was a LOT close although the decision wasn't the most popular decision....It wasn't a robbery by any means...it was a hotly contested battle where JMM was the sharper, more accurate guy.....PAC was the busier guy who pushed the fight which a lot of judges seem to prefer. Tim was slightly the busier fighter in his fight with PAC...but that was purely based on his commitment to throw the jab....even when it wasn't being thrown to land or damage PAC....it was just to stay busy and keep something in between himself and PAC. PAC threw and landed more power shots and he was more accurate. He casued more damage and PAC was the aggressor. There wasn't any quantifiable category in that fight that favored Tim other than the jab...... Comparing the JMM vs PAC 3 fight to Tim vs PAC is like comparing apples to oranges as one fight was close and competitive...where the other was a one sided domination.
From what I recall he said Pac won the first half, Now sure you could say first six rounds but if the scores are 4 rds to 2 rds after six you can also say Manny won the first half. in other words you are reading into what he said too much you are simply hearing what you want to hear
Close to 99%. Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao ********************: 116-112 Pacquiao Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao Rob Day, RingNews24.com: 117-112 Pacquiao Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao Ronnie Shields, boxing trainer: 117-111 Pacquiao David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao Tommy Gunn, BoxingAsylum.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Phil Jay, *****.net: 118-110 Pacquiao Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao Among the experts above, 118 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley. None of the scores for Pacquiao was offered by Philippine media. The draw score and the score for Bradley were not provided by American media.
Bradley needs to respond to this immediately. Timothy Bradley's response *people don't know sh^t about boxin!* make it happen tim.