Anyone believe Adamek beat Chambers?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Most people who were at the fight seem to disagree with you so far.

    I disagree with you too.

    Punch stats show Adamek landing what - thirty-five punches less? Forty? Divide that by twelve and you have around 4 punches around. Factor in how pro boxing scoring works and what is your problem?
     
    McGrain, Jun 17, 2012
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  2. Baldwin

    Baldwin Boxing Addict banned

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    The man didnt take chances. Got outworked and sat behind that shell defence. While acting cocky and slick. After the first couple rounds, i was like eddie is getting ready to cut loose and his hand go. Didnt happen and kinda a let down. Should go to CW. Couldnt care to watch another HW chambers fight.

    Adamek was just active.
     
    Baldwin, Jun 17, 2012
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  3. Honor

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    Adamek won the fight but it was close. Chambers simply didn't do enough to win a decision. His workrate was poor, and all the taunting and smiling he was doing was pointless and cringe worthy, like in the Kingpin/Klitschko fight. Chambers simply wasn't active enough, he could of won if he really wanted to, Adamek was just too beefed up in this fight, he needs to try to get down to 210.
     
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  4. MrMagic

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    Well I respect your opinion moreso than most posters on here.

    So I'm just gonna say:

    I had Chambers winning the majority of the rounds by clean punching and controling the pace of the fight. Adamek was barely landing anything at all.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Nazeem Richardson and Steven Cunningham were both at the fight and both seem to have given it to Adamek:

    Two Philadelphia boxing figures who were in the crowd watching the fight – ace trainer Naazim Richardson and former Adamek opponent Steve Cunningham – both felt that a one-handed Chambers had too much of an uphill battle to overcome.

    The Ring has it very close going into the final round:

    With the fight's result uncertain (to everyone but the judges), Adamek came out strong for the 12th round

    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/173403-adamek-outhustles-one-armed-chambers-for-decision-victory

    They also see Adamek out-working Chambers for spells:
    Adamek took advantage of the cog in Chambers' plan and outworked "Fast Eddie" in the early and middle rounds, throwing hard right crosses to the head and left hooks to the body of Chambers, who did a good job of avoiding the heaviest artillery with his upper-body movement. Still, with only one hand at his service, Chambers used his right to land from a variety of angles and stances that stole several moments from Adamek.

    Against reason, Chambers began to come on strong in the ninth, 10th and 11th rounds, backing up a seemingly winded Adamek with just his right hand, jabbing from a southpaw stance and then following it up with right crosses from an orthodox stance.

    Which is in keeping with the other media that was ringside.
     
    McGrain, Jun 17, 2012
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  6. McGrain

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    Listen, I had it close on a shitty upload but my mind remained open to the possibility that I was wrong and you guys were right - you can see that process in the thread.

    So I start digging out ringside reports and not one says "robbery" and not one says "controversial" and the fighters say "close" (at first) and a couple of people I respect had it to Adamek...I'm just saying, this might have looked like a robbery to some people with a certain mentality watching on tv but have been something else in the stadium. I think you should open up your mind to that possibility. Robbery is a big word.
     
    McGrain, Jun 17, 2012
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  7. Norbix

    Norbix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks, tried making the point about stats earlier but people keep ignoring it.

    This fight and the Pacquiao fight truly show how influenced posters here are from biased commentary. It's sad because people here have thousands of posts and suddenly think they have some type of credible opinion but they really don't.
     
    Norbix, Jun 17, 2012
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  8. RANGEFINDER JAB

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    Against reason? :lol: This was truly shocking, and an utter disgrace.
     
    RANGEFINDER JAB, Jun 17, 2012
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  9. McGrain

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    The Pacquiao-Bradley fight reaction wasn't interested by "biased commentary" at all. Only 800,000 people watched the HBO commentary. Most of us in Europe watched the International Commentary - which had Bradley winning. Everyone over here thinks it a robbery too. The most popular stream was apparently in Russian.
     
    McGrain, Jun 17, 2012
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  10. McGrain

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    Yeah, "against reason." As in, "it is against reason that a man with such an injury should be able to fight back but he did it."
     
    McGrain, Jun 17, 2012
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  11. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chambers badly hurt his left arm early on. I applaud him for not retiring, but basically fighting on with only one arm. After the 1st or 2nd round, he threw maybe five lefts the entire fight. Chambers' defense was a thing of beauty. Just beautiful head movement and guard. With a defense like that, he will give anyone trouble, and have a long career. Hope his arm heals up well. I agreed with the decision, but would like to see a rematch with Chambers having two good arms.
     
    apollack, Jun 17, 2012
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  12. Norbix

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    Point I'm making is that Pacquiao didn't blow out Bradley. It was decently close, and most people watched HBO streams. Bradley lost, it was a robbery, but the point is people can not score for themselves.
     
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  13. McGrain

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  14. micky

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    This sums it up really, Adamek won the fight by 3 or 4 rounds or thereabouts, Chambers had only one arm from the 2nd or 3rd but you can't mark him up for that, I much prefer Chambers to Adamek but he simply could not do enough with one hand to warrant the verdict.

    Amazed most seem to think Chambers did enough, just cannot see it personally.
     
    micky, Jun 17, 2012
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  15. Royal-T-Bag

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    you're a moron and no I didn't have Bradley beating Pac I had Pac easily winning the bradley fight 116-112...... get your head out your ass, I been calling that a robbery since it happened, nice try though.

    YOU CANNOT WIN A FIGHT by only landing 13% if the other not only lands at a way higher percentage but lands significantly more punches!!! Chambers got robbed
     
    Royal-T-Bag, Jun 17, 2012
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