Open Challenge to hardcore MP Fans - MP 2009 vs FMJ 2009

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Judah was a decent puncher, yes, but nowhere near what Pacquiao in his prime had. Judah was always far more limited than Pacquiao and I don't think he had the raw power either.

    Look at what Pacquiao and Judah did to Cotto and then come back and argue that they're comparable. Pacquiao is in a different league altogether.
     
  2. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You missed the point. Judah never hurt Mayweather.:patsch
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Cotto(e) commits too damn punch with his power jab. emmanuel by way of his southpaw stance was able to counter with his cross directly down the pipe. It was like throwing a football into an open window.
     
  4. turbotime

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    Went completely over his head. Fantastic :lol:
     
  5. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see how Diaz helped with that. Steward made Cotto(e) commit less with each individual jab and emphasized doubling and tripling it, also helped with balance. Diaz actually used that but seemed to encourage Cotto(e) to "push" with the jab, getting him into better punching position when it does land.
     
  6. Gander Tasco

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    Pretty sure we all saw Floyd get tagged with a straight left and retreat back to the ropes. He wasnt wobbled but he definitely got stunned.

    He was also hurt by Demarcus Corley (southpaw).
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hurt was maybe the wrong word. I think it was a legit punch which caused Mayweather to stumble though.
     
  8. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A) Floyd was the smaller man in their fight.

    B) Corley also had the much larger Cotto on absolute ***** street in their fight.

    Mayweather getting buzzed by Chop Chop isn't something to hold onto. Corely just TKO'd McCloskey who Khan couldn't even get outta there.
     
  9. thawk888

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    So now I'm supposed to accept that Manny's power took an absolute ****ing cliff dive from 2009 and got to the point where he couldn't:

    a) Knock down a 38 year old Marquez /2011

    b) Knock down a lww with two bad feet /2012

    Yet he's supposedly the hardest puncher Mayweather has ever faced?
     
  10. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not holding on to anything I just pointed it out. And it's not coincidental that Floyd has looked more vulnerable against left handers.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yea, Timmeh had emmanuel bewildered with his lighter jabs and range keeper jabs.

    From what I seen of Cotto(e) he thinks of the jab as a power punch and always tries to land a heavy one. I haven't ever seen him flick one out to measure someone for the power shot, check an opponent's hand, or just simply stick it out to maintain distance.
     
  12. thawk888

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    I seem to remember in his Foreman fight he actually did that, but I may be remembering wrong.
     
  13. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't this thread about 09 Pac vs. Floyd?


    Power isn't the most important thing Pac brings to the table here anyway. It would have been a combination of his speed, endless stamina, chin, will, dynamic offense, and relentlessness that would have given Floyd problems.
     
  14. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No disrespect but your opinions are generally ****.
     
  15. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah that means a lot comin from you reppin.