A guy who trains in wing chun, told me he's dropped so many boxers using it.

I met this guy at the gym, and he's trained in Martial arts for many years. His main art was Wing Chun, which was the first ever martial art that Bruce Lee learned. Anyway, while talking to him, he was showing me different moves from Wing Chun. And he told me that he's dropped so many boxers using Wing Chun.

Do you think he's telling the truth? He seemed genuine.

 

maybe, why not

being a boxer doesnt make you untouchable

 

Besides being the first martial art that Bruce Lee learned, it was developed by a woman.

So...



probably. Women are ruthless.

 

Depends on the boxer really.

Its all upstairs anyway, regardless of the art.

If a boxer comes onto a bloke recklessly - then regardless of the Martial
Art, he is a chance to get put down.

Wing Chun is a soft art based around defence, its not an attacking art
like Karate (striking) or boxing, but could be used effectively to defend
against those arts, its a defensive art.

 

It's definitely NOT a soft martial art. some of the stuff he showed me was pretty lethal. Especially wrist locks and punch blocking etc.

 

ipman says yes.

 

I have watched Ipman knocking out a boxer so I would say yes.

 

The guy is lying to you, I almost guarantee it.

 

i think so an absolute master at Wing Chun would be a serious problem for a strictly boxer who just uses his hands....

 

So then it might help David Haye?

 

You raise an interesting point.

It's pretty clear that martial arts are not much help, offensively, in a boxing match. This is because of the rules, what you can't use, and also because the method of punching in Western boxing is superior to that of any martial art. (I am talking about JUST punching technique.) That's been proven.

However, I know from personal experience that martial arts training can help a boxer's defense. I was an amateur MW, and had some training in Aikido. I was far from an expert, but I always felt my training helped me with reflexes, body movement (flexibility) and most importantly: Balance. I went 20-0 (before retiring @ 20-1) mostly because I was very hard to hit.

I'm surprised that such training hasn't been adopted by high-level boxers. (or maybe it has, and they just don't talk about it?) Aikido is particularly defense-oriented, but all of the arts should have benefit.

 

Possible...

If you see boxers make the transition to kickboxing mma and all, they usually lack the defence against kicks (high and low), elbows, knees and grabbing techniques.
Also it has been shown that a iron chin isn't a match for a kick or knee to the head.

Only it all largely depends on who is fighting who, because physical attributes count more as fightstyles.

 

Ipman was a legend. He was kicking everybody's ass regardless of style or size a true badass. I'm sure for the most part an expert wing chun practioner "might" have an upperhand vs an amateur/beginner boxer just as a pro boxer would over an amatuer wing chun student. My experience was the opposite. I'm 5'7" sparred with a wing chun student who was 6'1"-6'2" and a southpaw on top of that. Had good speed tried to counter everything I did, but tho being much smaller I was outjabbing the guy. He couldn't deal with the bobbing and weaving and especially once I started pressuring on the inside he had no space to work with he was in my zone now. I just remember he tagged me once good with a clean shot, I returned the favor with right hand leads and bodyshots and it was over in 3 rounds once he gave his back to me he quit. Very fast, awkward to fight against, but maybe his teacher might of been a better match. It depends on the person I dont believe in any style being better. A 1 yr novice isn't beating a 15 yr vet unless they some special talent and even still I doubt that.

 

martial arts are ****, watch the first UFC and watch all these 5th and 10th dan martial
artist get pounded by common street fighters. No martial artist could knock out a world class moving boxer

 

This topic I think is pretty much an MMA vs Boxing discussion, one that I've pondered many times and always concluded the same:

Under boxing rules, the boxer wins. Under MMA rules, the MMA wins.

Simply put, they are 2 different sports entirely and a professional practioner of either will win 90-100% of the time when fought under favourable conditions.

Refining it to the style of Wing Chun in particular is very subjective and almost impossible to decipher. When discussing MMA styles, I always argue that a mere glance at the current MMA landscape would tell you which style is most successful in a combat situation (look at Jones, St. Pierre, Silva etc)... That said, MMA rules (I think anyway), dictate that many distinctive strikes present within Wing Chun are illegal (strikes to the neck, back of the head etc...). Therefore, speculation as to whether or not Wing Chun is a successful style of MMA is invalid until quantitatively proven otherwise i.e. used in a professional sport which permits all aspects of it's utility.

Think I might have gone off on one there. Apologies if I have, I'm at work and trying to entertain myself!