A guy who trains in wing chun, told me he's dropped so many boxers using it.

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    lol I'm guessing you have talked to quite a few of them
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends who the 2 guys fighting are,

    Ive studied Kung Fu, Boxing, kickboxing and Thai Boxing so im not really biased about either styles

    Wing Chun mainly focuses on punches straight down the middle, very short close quarters combat

    Its really hard to compare because it all depends on whose fighting who.
     
  3. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    lmao at gone off on one there, i know that feeling BUT, nope i liked your post and think the point about illegal strikes is bang on
     
  4. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on the relative skills of the two individuals involved in the fight.
     
  5. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep - I sure have. I'm not saying there isn't good stuff in there, just that a martial arts gym and a serious boxing ring are at two different levels of competitiveness (often, not always). The 2 things MMA guys have that boxer's struggle to deal with are leg kicks and wrestling - the UFC HW Champion is pretty much a boxer with good defence against those two techniques. Can't think of a single Win Chun guy who has done well in mma:huh
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    yea this is very key. When there's competition and people just have to win it gives you experience on what it's like to be in there with someone who has been training for weeks just to knock you out, someone who sole intent is to HURT you. the competition mind state can be very different than just sparring where people are in there to practice techniques and get better.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Bull****.

    Bruce Lee ditched wing chun (or removed many elements of it from Jeet Kune do) as it wasn't practical.

    Wing chun is all about countering and feeding off your opponents offense. it's a decent martial art

    If somebody squares up to you and tries to hit you and you know wing chun their throat or face is in for quick painfull counter

    Bruce Lee himself found a big problem with it bieng that if an opponent runs in head down a wing chun fighter can't do much. He himself was in such a situation. Boxing provides an uppercut, bodyshots and wide hook + footwork.

    Wing chun is rather square forward and straight line.
     
  8. Zerwas1

    Zerwas1 Active Member Full Member

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    Did 2,5 years of Wing Chun, after that started boxing.
    I've been a much better fighter after a half year of boxing than doing 2,5 years Wing Chun. It's a martial arts that works mostly theoretically.
     
  9. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Dereck Chisora can beat any woman :deal
     
  10. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    9/10 if they are evenly matched, weight, height, experience im going for a boxer. Ive done 15 years of hung gar (crane and tiger) and san shou and 8 years of boxing. Those 8 yrs of boxing was a lot more effective than anything ive done in traditional martial arts. As a martial artist your not as use to getting hit and you dont train your body to take shots like a boxer does. You have a lot of other elements to study as a martial artist like forms, weopons etc. My grandfather would disagree because he's old school and was a kung fu teacher (hung gar)for many years and trained hard core while growing up in china he trained iron hand learned pressure points. He'd also say how can we not train our body for pain when we do iron hand, and chi excersises etc. We'd often play fight and he'd always find an opening and say i'd kill you if you werent my blood. But that was before i did boxing. I often wondered what would happen if i sparred him again after my boxing training. But it probably be the same result since he was a real badass.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    We were using 16ozers and just the headgear and mouthpiece no groin guard or cups he was alittle tall so I tried not to hook much to body because I might if hit him low, but I was very comfortable and very surprised to outjab him also just feeling him out and figuring out his style. I tried not to laugh at his stance out of respect. I think when I started closing the gap jabbing my way in he started panicking because as he was swatting and parrying my jabs he knew I was loading and setting my right, which I hardly threw at first, but had he not been countering and just use his own jab he could of given me problems. He almost took my headgear off with a montrous straight left I never saw coming I got alittle too comfortable plus I was taking it pretty easy on him. After that close call, I used alot of feints and baits ala Morales and hooks to body. One thing I noticed tho he fought in spurts so when I was rough housing him for awhile he was really ineffective just slapping down on me. I didnt want to get caught again so I'd quickly close the gap push him on the ropes and then,sidestep to create space for hooks and uppercuts which I'm comfortable with most.

    Once I wore him down I was just landing at will, but it was just a competitive sparring wasn't looking to ko anyone. But nobody wants to look bad. We became good friends after that. He'd always joke I had more boxing experience than him, which is true, but if I spar him using his rules and style he could beat me because I don't know **** about Wing Chun (IDKSAWC). I just prefer boxing because it is many styles not just one as most people categorize it to be. From a streetfight, to mma, to amatuer boxing, you can learn to brawl, stick and move, counter, feint, rough house, switch hit, set up a knockout punch your opponent never saw coming, etc. It can be effective if you want it to be. It's always evolving, but at it's core it's always been the same.
     
  12. manex

    manex Active Member Full Member

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    :deal
    I’ve trained in “martial arts” including boxing.

    Why?

    Because boxing can be an effective martial art in it's own right!

    Bruce lee also trained in boxing, as part of his Jeet Kune Do Techniques that he developed, and was pretty good at it too.:bbb
     
  13. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Give JDS 3 months wing chun training and he would become the Emperor of China :deal
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    It doesn't get old. It just gets better and better.
     
  15. The Spider

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    It's as much to do with the fighting capabilities of the individual as it is to do with what he's trained in. There are street fighters who could go in and dominate most martial arts in a short time because they are just fundamentally bad ass and dangerous.