My take on Bradley / Pacquaio

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Temiken, Jun 18, 2012.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    everybody tried to do this and some are giving bradley every possible rounds that he did not even win. just rounds that he did not lose that bad. even if i do this on my card, he would have won only 4 rounds.
     
  2. Prince.

    Prince. 24/7 365 Full Member

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    Same.
     
  3. Filthy McNasty

    Filthy McNasty Punchy Old Pug Full Member

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    Way more than that.


    Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
    Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
    Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
    George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
    CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    ********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Rob Day, RingNews24.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
    Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
    Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ronnie Shields, boxing trainer: 117-111 Pacquiao
    David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
    George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
    FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Tommy Gunn, BoxingAsylum.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
    John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
    John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao
    Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
    Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
    Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
    John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
    John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao
    Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Phil Jay, *****.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
    Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
    Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
    Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
    Among the experts above, 118 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.
    None of the scores for Pacquiao was offered by Philippine media.
    The draw score and the score for Bradley were not provided by American media.
     
  4. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    I could care less if majority of the sports writers scored it for Pac. None of those writers are boxers and have not boxed a lick in their life.
     
  5. randomwalk

    randomwalk Active Member Full Member

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    Majority (that I have seen) of current/former boxers scored it for Pac.
     
  6. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree,good post.. It's amazing how many people get so emotional over the outcome..
     
  7. ThePunchingBag

    ThePunchingBag Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On first sight I scored it 115-114 for Bradley.
    I saw a close fight (3 out of 3 judges agree) that Bradley won (2 out of the 3 judges agree).

    I think yall scored the fight on ring generalship alone, and ring generalship to you means starpower...

    I totally agree with OP, most of the time, Manny wasnt even fighting.
    When he had his wild 30 seconds per round, most of the time, he didnt land ****. The commentary was misleading and biased, I had to turn that **** off after 2 rounds bc they were telling fairy-tales instead of commentating the action. The punchstats appeared to be even more constructed and out of touch with reality than the commentary.

    A 11-1 or 10-2 scorecard in favour of Pacquiao is much more out of this world than scoring the fight for bradley imo.

    There was no robbery, Pacquiao lost fair and square bc he is over the hill.

    I think Pacmans next fight will answer some questions and make people reconsider their perception of the Bradley-fight.
     
  8. ThePunchingBag

    ThePunchingBag Well-Known Member Full Member

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  9. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Wow, that is a terrible argument.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    that would put the few *****s who have since changed their scorecards in a dilemma.
     
  11. ThePunchingBag

    ThePunchingBag Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think that you have to be a ***** to score the fight for Bradley, what kind of reasoning is that?
    I don't really like Mayweather, I prefer Pac, and I even think 2009-2010 Pac had a good chance of beating May (not any more though obviously) plus I have Pac higher in the all time-p4p-rankings.
    But what does that have to do with the fact that Pacquiao landed **** and was inactive for the vast majority of the fight?
     
  12. Filthy McNasty

    Filthy McNasty Punchy Old Pug Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao

    I think they may have boxed before......
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Pac fans wont because they can not for their lives look at a fight with Pacquiao involved objectively
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Wayne was trained by Roach..... Go figure, Hatton was knocked the **** out by Pacquiao, he is still mentally shook up from that